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Question Vegan Organic Nutes?
Does anyone know where I can find Vegan nutes that are still organic? I know that earth juice has blood and bone meal in it.

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Biogenesis Synergy is an all vegan stimulant I know. It is also the best stimulant I have ever used. They also make some other nutrients but I havent used them yet.
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pura vida from tecknoflora is what your after my freind, great product, you can use a little or a ton, doesnt burn. all vegan and organic and works well in hydro too..
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:39 PM
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Thanks guys, rep. Do you guys know anything about Dutch nute formula?
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Does anyone know where I can find Vegan nutes that are still organic? I know that earth juice has blood and bone meal in it.

How about not using none at all and grow some of the best smoke you could ask for?

If you build your soil first, it takes more time but it is worth it.

Mix you a good soil with about 10% worm castings and five percent Bat Guano.

Then, mix it up and add some filtered or preferably rain water with some of your urine mixed in at about one to two parts urine to at least 10 parts water and give the soil a good drenching with it and give urine again once the plants are about one month old in Vegetation. and it will charge the soil with nitrogen and if you have a good diet, it will add other great things to the soil through your urine.

Once your soil is built to this point, add some live worms and let them start breeding.

Feed the worms veggie and fruit scraps and I even make the soil, fruit and Veggie smoothies at times and pour it in.

I also put a little scoop of outside dirt in the totes or pots and let the beasties in the soil start building also as I prefer to let them in the soil to contribute to my more Natural ways of growing than to worry about it being sterilized from the outside.

Once you have worms building up and you see rollie pollies and other beasties feeding on the scraps, you have living soil, that will almost compete with the beautiful and rich soil of nature.

Then, I roll my seeds in Myco Fungi and pour water with Myco Fungi in the totes over the dirt and put in the plants and watch them go!

At that point, I use nothing but two tablespoons of Molasses to every gallon of water and that is what I give them every other feeding from the time they are four to six weeks old.

I do use some Perrier natural Co2 water for spraying them a couple of times a week and they also like being sprayed with Natural Raw Honey and that is all that I use and the yield is good, but the quality and potentcy of the smoke is beyond anything that I have smoked " besides some of the good stuff from the old days that was grown in the sun. "

It is not really that difficult at all and the patience pays off with plants that never change color in the leaves and the buds get a tremendous amount of resin.

I always share any knowledge that I have freely.

Hope this helps, but if you are interested in producing very potent and more importantly " Healthy " smoke, this is a good way of doing it.

Feed the soil and beasties that help feed the plants.

Organics is the only way to go for me in my grows and in the things that I eat myself.

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dude, he asked about VEGAN organic. bat guano is NOT vegan. neither are worm castings.
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dude, he asked about VEGAN organic. bat guano is NOT vegan. neither are worm castings.
No disrespect, but you are wrong.

If a Vegan is worried about using worm castings and Bat Guano or any of the methods that I proposed for a grow, I can assure them that; " these are in nature as well and the building blocks of a good Organic grow to enhance the potentcy of the soil while you are getting it built up. "

Wether it is Bat Poo or Bird or Dog or cow, ect.ect.ect........there is no way to escape poo and it's ENORMOUS benefits.

There is probably not 1000 people in the U.S. that has a strict of diet as I and my wife have and I promise you my Vegan friend; " the way I outlined my technique to you, will give you the healthiest smoke that you could ever want and very potent and I will gladly answer any other questions you have, if healthy and organic smoke, is what you want to produce.

I am no expert, but my health is of the utmost importance to me and my wife and family and I would never give suggestions to anyone wth the intent of hurting them in any way.

In the end " the closer you can get to nature, the better your plants will treat you and the better quality and more healthy smoke, you will grow and that includes dealing with some poo.

If you had a plant outside in the ground and a bird pooed on it and then a dog came and pooed on it after eating some raw Meat, " I do not believe our Vegan friend would throw his tree away, unless he were extremely ignorant and uneducated. "

Nature has a way and a balance and that includes defecation from Herb eating beings and meat eating beings and otherwise.

The plants know no difference and get benefits from whatever they can and that includes and definately not limited to defecation and urine.

Just the truth.......even for a Vegan..


Good Luck to all in there attempts to grow the " Tree Of Knowledge. "

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No matter how you slice it, bats and worms are animals~ hence not vegan. he did ask for vegan and though I think the whole concept of veganism is wrong-headed (we're all part of the food chain), let them grow Vegan.

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its true, if youre vegan, you dont use any animal products, including guano and worm castings
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The way i see it a vegan is a person that only eats fruit and veg. Now i bet you that some organic vegetables have been fed on some animal shit. Vegans can't escape eating fruit and veg that has been grown in some shit. Animals die might get buried and once in the ground gets used up in plants/veg we feed on the veg the lifecycle of the earth.

A vegan has to accept that they might be eating fruit and veg that has been feeding on some animals that eat meat shit. Also this applies to dead animals and insects that are in the soil.
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