So i wanna do outdoor this year but i dont just wanna use fox farms soil and water. this year i want some monsters. a lot of them. I have read that mixing bone meal for veg stage and blood for bud stage...right?? now how bout kelp meal, when does that go in and when do i stop putting it in?? last question.......do I add these in every time i water? or mix them in with the soil? also would i be able to use some fertilizer with these as well? or will the fertilizers have these in them????

Me myself mix it into the soil i use an organic liquid seaweed instead of sea kelp that i mix with water. Do be really carefull coz to much mixed into the soil can over nute and kill the plants. I use a bonemeal and a fish, blood and bonemeal mix i also use poulty manure pellets which all are really cheap and easy to get hold off. Start by using it in really small doses is what i recommend. I use a lil bit tomato blooming fertiliser as well this is to get the trace elements needed for the plants for boron etc. I did over nute one of my plants once and it died so please try to use it as small as possible and later can up the dose slowly as the plants get bigger. Try to get a ph kit u can get them relatively cheaply i got one that dont need batteries of around £7. This to make sure the ph balance is correct. Do all of this and get some shooting powder or molasses for the final two weeks of flowering to put the weight on ur buds to make them heavy and dense good luck with ur grow and hope u get some real monsters.My advice mix in with the soil get a blooming fertiliser for the trace ingriedients need for the plants and should be all good but start of really small doses and molasses or shooting powder to put the weight on the buds in the last two to three weeks of flowering.Evil

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Ohhh yeah i use all of them from the beginning of the grow after two weeks in veg stage once the plant has started to get big and more stable.

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Bloodmeal is for Nitrogen, lasts about 2 to 3 months

Bonemeal is for Phosphorous, lasts 5 to 6 months

Kelp meal is for Potassium, lasts about 4 months.


Create an organic mix that you think will give your plants good balanced veg growth.

And supplement with a High P guano tea for flowering if you wish.

I also feed with a High N guano tea if I see any Yellowing. Sometimes the plants eat up all the Bloodmeal because its fast acting. So give it some tea just before flower and your golden.

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Do you all amend your soil with the blood, bone, and kelp meal or do you just dissolve it in water and use it as a root drench?

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Bonemeal and kelp meal wont dissolve good.

And the Bloodmeal would make a gory mess....


So I only make tea's with Guano. You could top dress with any of them too.

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+rep Xare, how much do u recommend top dressing with?

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I would feed with soil amendments for most of the grow and use a tea or top dressing at flower time.

You dont want to use alot for top dressing. Its not the best way to fertilize. Teas are better. Top dressing is just not very efficient.

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yea ya just got some stuff from the store...blood meal,kelp meal,oyster shell meal,green sand,and dolomite lime for ph plus. right now i got all plants in veg. and starting to make a tea out of this stuff going all Organic this outdoor grow.