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Old 04-10-2009, 12:46 PM
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Smile Expert Advice Needed w/ Earth Juice Organic Nutrients Recipe
Hi all, I'm looking to see if anyone has some advice on what a good recipe/mixture/dosage of Earth Juice organic nutrients would be for my current setup, because what I'm doing now doesn't seem to be working very well.

Basically I'm growing the same strain (NL99 - Northern Lights X Cinderalla 99 by Joey Weed Seeds) side by side, one plant is growing in a soilless mix using only Earth Juice organic nutrients and the other plant is growing in a DWC bubbler bucket using only GH 3-Part Flora series nutrients. Both plants are in 2 gallon buckets growing under a 400w HPS inside a Dark Room grow tent.

I started this experiment to come to my own conclusion on whether or not organically grown buds taste better than hydro buds. I'm getting pretty good now at the hydro growing, the DWC plant is growing perfectly and quickly, but I don't think I'm using a good Earth Juice mixture to feed the organic plant because that plant is growing slower, its not as big, and its starting to turn slightly pale green.

Its a little hard to tell by the pic I uploaded below but the organic plant in soil is in the front and the hydro DWC plant is in the back. Both plants are currently at day 17 of flowering (I like to keep them short).

Here are more details on my watering/feeding routine:

  • Plant gets watered with about 1 to 1.5 gallons of water every 3 days. 3 days is about how long it takes for the top of the soil to dry out a little and 1 to 1.5 gals of water is just enough to have about a 10% run-off out of the bottom at each watering.
  • I have the entire Earth Juice line (Grow, Bloom, Micro, Catalyst, & Meta-K) but I'm really confused on when I should be using each and how much I should use. What I've done so far is mix 1/4 tsp of each product with the 1 gallon of water at each watering, which is obviously not what I'm supposed to do.
  • The NL99 is a light feeder for me so as a comparison in the hydro bucket I use 1/4 tsp of the GH Micro, 1/4 tsp of the GH Grow, and 1/2 tsp of the GH Bloom per 1 gallon of water and the plant seems to love every minute of it.

My questions are:

  • If I water my plant with about 1 to 1.5 gallons of water at each watering, what do you think is the best amount of Earth Juice nutrients to include in the mix?
  • If this strain is thriving at a ~5.8 pH in the hydro bucket what pH should I aim to keep the organic plant in the soilless mix at?

Thanks!
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:15 PM
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I don't have the Catalyst or the Meta-K, but I do use the other 3. I am fairly new to them, but I think you're using less than they recommend. A Moderate/Normal dose is 1 tablespoon per gallon of both the Grow and Bloom nutes. I'm pretty sure the label says that the Micronutrients are supposed to be used every 2 weeks, and the doseage is much lower than the others. The directions are on the left of the label. Good luck.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:54 PM
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I found this somewhere on the internet, I've been using Earth Juice for my soil grow, its working well so far.



Which leads us to our “standard” full strength Earth Juice grow recipe.

1 to 2 TBSP Grow
1 tsp Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst (uniquely called Xatalyst here in Canada for some odd reason )
(all ingredients are added to a gallon of water . . . )

The only difference between this and the prior mix is this one has an extra boost of Meta K and Microblast to make the feeding even more complete.
1-2 TBSP Grow
1 tsp Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst
1 tsp Meta-K
1 tsp Microblast


We like to use something along the lines of the following recipe for the first couple weeks of flowering:
1 TBSP EJ Grow
1 TBSP EJ Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst

Mixing an Earth Juice Bloom formula for middle or late bloom can be as easy as:
1 TBSP EJ Bloom
1 tsp EJ Catalyst

The flowering micro-mix usually goes together like this:
1 TBSP Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst1 tsp Meta-K
1 tsp Microblast
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:41 PM
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Thanks for the info I'll give those mixes a shot

What do you think about the pH, what should I adjust it to prior to watering the plant?
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Your average is right on about the mixes. That came from 3lb's recipe. You can find this and alot of other goodies over at breedbay where subcool has a ton of tuts like he does here. Hopefully I can post this about breedbay if not I am sorry. About PH it is a toss up some say yes ph water some say no as long as your mix has some dolemite lime in it. The living soil will automatically break it down and make it usuable and you dont have to worry about PH. I personally dont ph my water with organics. I use ej as well. Make sure you mix and shake that shit thouroughly.
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I tried ej on a test plant once,.. didn't pH it,.. after a few days leaves on only that plant were wilting and yellowing. I'm glad I only used it on one plant. Those bottles don't have any expiration date, my theory is if you get an older one the bacteria in it will have created enough metabolic waste to lower the pH. The runoff on that plant was pH 4.

It's not hard to go acidic if you're using organics. You should always check the pH of stuff you're trying out for the first time and keep an eye on what it does to your plants a few days after first applying it. It's not hard to pH and it can prevent disaster.
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