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Old 06-29-2007, 03:19 AM
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I would like to add at this stage that adding molasses to a hydroponic system is a bad idea, if you have moving parts that come in contact with water, i.e. water pumps, then there is a good chance that these could become blocked.
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Hey everyone, glad all the dust has settled a bit.
For what it's worth, I use molasses, when in flowering.

Usually I use it about 3 times, maybe 4 at most during flowering.
I like to make sure it is the last thing my babies eat.

I do not flush my plants at all, my feelings on flushing, are simply this:
by needing a flushing, you are saying that there is stuff in your soil that you dont want/need, and/or that there is too much of it present.
In an organic grow, there shouldnt be a need for flushing.

Moving on, I got off subject a bit, Molasses has many uses, I went out to my (vegetable) garden, and something was eating the leaves on my green pepper plants, I sprayed a mixture of molasses and water on the plants.....and problem was solved instantly. Plants are looking better than ever now too.
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Hey Vid....How ya be?

No need to flush? Not even prior to harvest? Organic grows dont have the issue of bad burning buds? The chemmical taste I would think wouldnt be there with Organics. But I always heard of bud needing to be re-lit when plants arent flushed prior to harvest.
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I would like to add at this stage that adding molasses to a hydroponic system is a bad idea, if you have moving parts that come in contact with water, i.e. water pumps, then there is a good chance that these could become blocked.
Very true NGT, but there are other consequences.

Feeding Molasses directly into a hydro reservoir effectively does what it does in soil - feeds the microbes that may be present, but it also makes them explode in terms of their population. It's this fluctuating number of microbes in the res that causes the ph to fluctuate out of control - you can't stablise it.

Also, the exploding populations of microbes in your reservoir reduce the oxygen supplies to a point where harmful pathogens and bacteria that like anaerobic conditions like Pythium and Fusarium can thrive and attack the plants roots.
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The chemmical taste I would think wouldnt be there with Organics. But I always heard of bud needing to be re-lit when plants arent flushed prior to harvest.
Is the reason for that because it was grown organically or for some other reason, do you think?
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I have no idea...thats why I asked the question.

What I read didnt say if they were talking about organic or non-organic nutes being used. It was a general statement saying all plants need to be flushed 2 weeks prior to harvest and only given water for the final two weeks. If not...you get bad tasting and or dab burning bud.

Is that good info?
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I have no idea...thats why I asked the question.

What I read didnt say if they were talking about organic or non-organic nutes being used. It was a general statement saying all plants need to be flushed 2 weeks prior to harvest and only given water for the final two weeks. If not...you get bad tasting and or dab burning bud.

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kinda sorta, but not realy....

true, you should ALWAYS FLUSH. failure to do so can cause issues like hard to light buds, joints that don't stay lit, acrid flavor, harsh smoke, and afterburn (headaches).

however, the two week thing is nutz. your buds generaly pack on most of thier weight in the last two weeks, so depriving them of nutes for that time, imo, is assinine. one week is plenty, i do five days of water in dirt. however, i have recently gotten a product that allows for a one day flush, meaning you don't have to cut the nutes off. the product is called florakleen and is made by gh.

hope that helps.

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Much appreciated, KP. All info helps. Gotta have as much inof as possible to form an opinion.

2 weeks of no nutes did make me say hmmmmmmm. But not knowing any different I would have done just that prior to harvest. I think Ill try it each way with different plants and see what happens. Flush vs. No Flush.
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:25 AM
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i don't reccomend a no flush, but that's just me. i have had good results in soil with an emergency harvest and 20 hours after flushing. kinda acrid, but better than one that was not flushed at all.

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Well I went around looking on the net to see if a side-by-side test had been done using molasses. Surprisingly there wasn't one. I'm not sure if I am going to be able to get a stable test since there seems to be a very putrid odor coming from the rockwool that I have started my clones in. So the clone's ages might vary by a few days if I have to take more. If anyone else wants to try doing the test too incase I fail it'd be a good idea.
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