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Old 03-01-2009, 09:25 PM
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Default changing from hydro to organic soil... first time! help appreciated!
Billdo transitions from Hydro to Soil

As you may know from my previous Grow Journal, I am a relatively new grower.

I had 1 really successful grow using Advanced Nutrients Sensi AB and Big Bud... but I wanted organic bud.

I then tried to go hydro-organic with my little (6 gallon) dwc system and the entire BMO line, but the pH shifts became too much to bear.

I thought even about going back to chem nutes, but I then thought about the reasons I am growing... which don't have anything to do with yield. they have to do with quality, taste, and knowing what is in it. what good is that if i am putting chemical crap in my girls?

So today... maybe against my better judgement, albeit... I switched to full-blown organic soil. I transplanted some (maybe) ladies from the dwc system to 10x10 pots filled with e.b. stone soil and just a bit of some white pellets made of corn starch that retain moisture like no other. they were recommended by my local garden store. I then watered them with just a bit of the old res solution.

I also planned my auto-drip system that I may implement in the future. I also, in preparation for my trip this week, added a crude wick system and ran the butcher's twine to the old dwc cloner res which will soon become my auto-drip res.

I am not sure that this will work... but I had to try something since I will be leaving them for a week.

Not to mention that I am sure these plants will have a rough transition to soil at their maturity level. It IS only their 3rd full day of 12/12, and they have not shown any roots out of their rockwool cubes yet, as shown in the photo.

Any thoughts or comments on this move?

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EB Stone Organic Soil
10x10 pots
BMO Nutes
My Worm Tea from my Vermicomposter
400w HPS
Carbon Scrubber
Air-cooled hood

Lineup of Ladies
2 White Widow
1 Critically Smashed
1 Sensi Star
1 Northern Lights
1 Fast Blast
I am new to soil, so I got a soil pH meter. My soil is currently set to 7.0. Is this ok? it seems on the high end of things.

Also, what pH should my nutrient solution be when I water the ladies? Sorry for all of these questions, but I really have no clue and am learning soil on the fly.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:55 PM
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Oh, one more thing.

The plants were dosed 48 hours with BushMaster 1 week before the transplant.
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:22 PM
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Default Post-Vacation Update!
Hey Guys,
I just got back from vaca, and when i left for a week and a half my 6 plants were looking really sad after having been taken out of my dwc setup (one week from having been Bushmaster treated for two days and put into 12/12) and switched and being trown into organic soil and BMO nutes (plus my worm tea).

When I returned, I found everything doing much better. I had three of my plants become males, so those are now gone. I am now left with one Sensi Star, one White Widow, and one Critically Smashed. The SS and the CS are both about 13" tall.

Also, you will see that I have 3 purple wreck and 3 blueberry seeds germinating in E.B. starting mix in the heating/propagating tray... in addition to all of my veggies getting ready for planting in a few week.

Am I missing hydro? Not one bit thusfar. My three plants are shaping up nicely in week 3 of flower. Should be a nice end product when you consider everything they have been through.


Quick question...
My bigger (18") white widow has a few bent leaves on her. not sharply bent like tip burn... but more like they are popped inside-out (the fifth photo above). Does anyone know what might be causing those?

There is also a leaf which is popped the same way (but in this case popped up) visible on the Critically Smashed plant shown in photo 3.
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:38 PM
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Looks good man. Have you noticed growth rate slow in general when going form hydro to soil. It seems to be common knowledge that hydro makes the plants grow a bit quicker. Just wondering if you have noticed a difference?
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Looks good man. Have you noticed growth rate slow in general when going form hydro to soil. It seems to be common knowledge that hydro makes the plants grow a bit quicker. Just wondering if you have noticed a difference?
Thanks for stopping in, Farel.

I noticed a growth stop... but that was as much due to the fact that I switched on the fly, and they would have stopped anyway due to the BushMaster.

The budding has actually been happening quickly over the past couple of days, so we will se how they end up.
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Old 03-16-2009, 01:08 AM
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I have been using OhSoGreen's BMO feeding schedule, and it is forking wonderfully thusfar.

Thanks, OhSoGreen for helping a brother out!


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Old 03-16-2009, 01:23 AM
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Default ZEBA Quench
Also, I have been using ZEBA Quench in my soil. I am not using much, but just a little bit really helps to keep your rootball moist in cases when you are going to be away for a few days. I started using it at the suggestion of my local garden store for my potted lemon tree on my back porch. It works wonders for outdoor plants. I thought that a little extra water retention wouldn't hurt my ladies indoor, either.

Check ZEBA Quench out. Anyone else have any experience with it?

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Old 03-16-2009, 01:28 AM
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ZEBA at a glance.

Looks like it is made with natural corn starch. not too shabby.
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Are you sure the ppm should be that low all the time. I thought the norm was 800-1350 ish. Ive had flowering plant at 1400 and they loved it. This was for hydro though. But 1000 max seems low, does it not??
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different strains, different nutes, different garden, different gardener

When I was using chem nutes in DWC hydro, I was topping out at about 1100 ppm in flower.
 

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