I currently have no way to upload pictures from my camera, sorry.
My set up is as follows.

Closet = 5'x8'x5'
400w hps for flower
lumatek ballast, HiLux lamp
4' Fluoro for veg (40w x 2, plant tubes or something.)
S&P Mixvent 100x(100 cfm)
S&P Mixvent 200(538/476 cfm, not hooked up at the moment)
21" Box Fan
250 cfm Fan(hooked up to HPS)
Clonex Cloning Gel
SuperThrive
4 of BMO's products
SPT, Foliar, Flower Power, Grow it Green
Soil is the mix the old man gave me that he uses:
1 Part Potting Soil (Miracle Grow Potting Soil, Feeds 3 months)
1/2 Part Vermiculite
1/2 Part Perlite
1/3 Part Cow Manure
1/3 Part Earthworm Castings (Black Gold)
1/3 Part Bat Guano (Indonesian Bat, 0.5-12-0.2)
1/6 Part Horticulture Charcoal

The MG soil is what he's been using for all the years he's had that strain and it's always worked for him. He even uses their fertilizer. Everything he uses now works the best, he's tried other ways. However I'm going to be using BMO's line up to see how it works. I'd rather use organic fertilizers than MG shit.

I am currently growing 2 Blue Rhino clones. When I got these clones from this old timer they came over with spider mites. Doesn't that suck!? I've gotten rid of the spider mites I believe. I received them on November 15th in plastic yogurt containers(6 oz.) I transplanted them a few weeks ago into (apprx.) 45 oz clay pots. The roots are starting to grow through the drain hole so I am transplanting tonight into 5 gallon buckets. Tonight will be the first time they will have been watered with BMO's products. Up until now I have used only superthrive/water. Also, I haven't had Vermiculite so I've been using more Perlite or Charcoal. My temps run 70-78 F during lights on, and 65-70 lights off. Humidity is anywhere from 16 - 27ish. If I constantly spray the plants it stays about 50.

I've been veg'n these clones and 1 bagseed for 34 days now, plus however long it took for him to root the clones, and my plants are only 7 - 7 1/2 inches tall. There are many many fan leaves, and I've only trimmed some dead ones. In total I have trimmed 6 fan leaves and will trim 2 or 3 more tonight. My bagseed(Cali Orange) Does this sound alright? I think my plants seem short? I was wanting to get them more like 12 to 18" since I'm only flowering 2, possibly 3 plants. So do I just have to veg for 60 days to get them there?

Sorry for the long post. Any help/criticism welcome and appreciated!

Thats alot of nutes...hope you don't cook them.

I'm not sure how it's a lot of nutes? I mean all added up, it doesn't seem I'm using as much as many others?

Indonesian Bat Guano = 0.5-12-0.2
Grow it Green = 5-2-5
Flower Power = 1-8-7
Foliar Harmony = 2-4-2
Total = 8.5 - 26 - 14.2
The Super Plant Tonic will replace the Superthrive and has no NPK ratio available. It's not a fertilizer, just something good for the plant!

I'm not sure if that's a great ratio or not? Should I use Grow it Green only during veg, and Flower Power only during Flower? That would change the ratios to: Veg = 7.5-18-7.2, and Flower = 3.5-24-9.2

How much in the soil...many claim that the mg has alot of nutes already

pillarize - thank you for your responses, I appreciate it.
The NPK ratio of the soil is 0.21 - 0.07 - 0.14. Some of that is designated for slow release..to feed up to 3 months. The slow release ratio is 0.15-0.03-0.08.
Also I'm not sure how important the soil PH is. I don't have a soil PH tester. All I know is the water I use is 6.0 - 6.2. However the run off water is 7.6 maybe a little more. Is it important that the actual soil PH is 6.8 or less? Or am I alright?

Anybody else? Maybe Ohsogreen?

I think it mg soil giving you proplems...one shouldn't have to nute for a few weeks with mg soil.

I'm trying to find out what my problem is here. Maybe it's my runoff water's PH? I think I could have nute lock out. Please Help! The first two pictures are of some fan leaves near the top of my (almost 8inch) plant. Pictures 3 and 4 are the bagseed(Cali Orange). They are 1 week older than the Blue Rhino clones.
Pictures 5,6,7, and 9 are the same plant. 8 and 10 are the other.

Also, I have only used the BMO - Grow it Green, Foliar Harmony, and Flower Power as a FOLIAR SPRAY, approx. 7 to 10 times. The BMO Super Plant Tonic I have used one time each at full strength on 12-18-08. Other than that nothing but water with SuperThrive ph'd at 6.0

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let them veg for a total of 45 days then either clone or cut the lower 1/3 of the plant(all the branches in the first 1/3 of the plant) this will help the plants breath and dont worry about the height!!! they usualy strech out quite a bit in the first 2-3 weeks of flower, ive found they grow more during the first 2 weeks flower than 45 days of veg,,,, good luck

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keep your light between 12-24 inches from the tops

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I think the problem may be the MG soil on top of all the fert that you have in the soil, PLUS the BMO products that you are using. MG is very toxic, and not recommended. It seems to be causing a nute lock-out, and I think it may be a combination of the MG Soil and the SPT. The SPT is an amazing product that allows a plant to truly thrive, but when mixed with something as toxic as MG, PLUS all the nutes that are in the soil, it is overwhelming the plant with nutes, causing very toxic/hot soil.

I would say flush the medium with pure water, and then another flush with water and a SMALL amount of SPT. A whole dose is way to much for barely rooted clones.

You can get rid of the SuperThrive all together if you have SPT. They are basically the same thing, only one is ridiculously expensive (ST), and the other is by a company whose entire line is tried and true to work (BMO SPT).

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