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Old 12-20-2008, 02:42 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I was going to veg for more like 60 days. They're only about 8 inches. I wanted to get like 4 to 6 clones before I flower them. Does that seem like too much to ask for? I'm not sure-my first grow. I'm using 4' fluoro's. 1 tube is 3,000k, the other 6500k. They stay within a few inches at all times.
It may well be the MG soil. I just figured it'd be alright because that's what the guy I got the clones from has used for years, along with MG fertilizer. I was just sub'n BMO products for his MG ferts.
Now my question is.. I've been doing research..
If my water is ph 6.0 or 6.2, and my run off is 7.6, does that make my soil ph like 7.8?? I need to lower my soil ph fast!!
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:47 AM
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Wow! That is very high soil ph! No wonder they are yellowing some. To lower your ph get some dolomite lime, and sprinkle some on the top layer of soil, than cover with more soil and water. That will lower it to neutral (7), which is better than what you are working with. Or, get some sawdust (but make sure that it isn't from treated lumber) and mix that with your soil, that will make it go down very fast, so don't add to much.
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Zombie, if I were to use FF Ocean Forest soil and BMO products, would that be a complete nutrient line up? BMO Products I would use would be the SPT, Grow it Green, Flower Power, and Foliar Harmony. Would I NEED any other additives/additions to this list?
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:40 AM
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No you wouldn't need anything else. That's actually my exact line up for my grows, FF Ocean Forest/Perlite soil and BMO line. Most "additives" that you get for your plant are just snake oil, and best to stay away from. One other additive that I would recommend though, which I also use, is Botanicares Clearex (which is also 100% organic). It isn't a "must have" product, it is just used for flushing your soil. It does a fantastic job of flushing all the salts out, so you don't get a toxic lock out. (Because it's a pain to flush your soil with gallons of water every month, even though I never veg for longer than 16 days).
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Old 12-23-2008, 02:16 AM
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Zombie, I was actually looking at Botanicare's Clearex. How often during a grow do you use it? Just for flushing at the end? Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions! +rep
Update. Just a few pictures of my plants. I also germinated 5 bagseed. On the 3rd day 4 of them had cracked so I planted them. After ONE night, 2 of them are out of the soil and a 3rd is trying to come up. Not too bad. The 1st pic is the Cali Orange(Day45 veg), then the 2 Blue Rhino Clones(Day38 veg).
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:46 AM
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I use the clearex about 4 times during a grow. Once before I send them into flower, once in the middle of flowering (about 3-5 weeks in, depending on the strain), once during my final flush, and then one more time about a week or more later, a couple days before my harvest, just to make sure that everything is out. It just helps prevent nutrient lock-out, but I think it's well worth it.

Your plants are looking good! They are kind of small/scrawny for 45 days in veg. I see your problem. Try flushing them like I said, and I would just throw them into flower. I, personally, only veg my plants for about 16 days, but thats because I like to keep them short.
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:50 AM
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Cool thanks for the info on the Clearex. Yes for 45 days in veg I feel they are very very small. To start off with the clones came over with spider mites. My humidity wouldn't stay above 20%, and my temps were like 80 - 85. I've gotten rid of the spider mites I believe (no sign in 2 or 3 weeks), the humidity is hovering around 40 - 50% for the larger clones and about 75 average for the 4 I just sprouted. My temps now are 73-77F during lights on, 65-75F lights off, and 80F for the new seedlings. Along with all that I didn't add lime to my soil mix so my PH was at least 7.6(my cheap test kit doesn't read above 7.6), and I probably overfertilized. So after this series of problems, I think I've got most of it corrected. They've grown an inch or so in the last few days, hope it gets better! I was wanting to veg them a while longer because I was under the impression I needed to take clones that are around 4" length.
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Just a quick update. Pics 1&2 are about 3 days old(bagseed). Pics 3&4 are Blue Rhino that I tied down. I'm trying to get the bottoms to grow up even with the tops..lst whatever, but I don't think I'll keep them tied down for good. Not sure yet. Pics 5&6 are the Blue Rhino top view. I've misted them down pretty good since I'm still veggin under fluoros.
I was also thinking about ordering some seeds here in the next month or something. I'll keep the Blue Rhino still and get rid of all the others. I was thinking about this line up.
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Blue Rhino
Blueberry
The Church
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And I'm not sure which Lemon Skunk fits under. I would really like to get a very good Sativa if anyone has a suggestion. I want it to be a pretty strong strain, with a good taste, and a great high. I don't care how small the yield is as this is for my personal personal stash..not even for my family I doubt hahaha. My height right now is 8ft. so I think I can handle a pure Sativa. Thank you for checkin out my journal.
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Looking really good. What are the nutes you are currently using now?
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