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Old 12-05-2008, 11:51 AM
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Default LOWRYDER WITH BAT GUANO help needed
i read on a thread that i can grow lowryder with bat guano in soil from sowing to harvest without having to add any more nutes and achieving great results. this thread is for all those who are into organic autoflowering strains. i have ordered auto great white shark and auto white moscow from lowlife seeds. i am thinking of buying solid and liquid bat guano put the solid in the soil and then use the liquid to fert during flowering what r ur thoughts? i am going to order soon what i need so ur advice will be highly appreciated. for general info my plan is to grow in a closet and harvest 4 plants i was thinking of using a 400 sonagro bulb and also use co2 tabs that are disolved in water for greater results. all info and suggestions are welcome thank u for ur effort!!










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Old 12-05-2008, 01:17 PM
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Got2loveit.... Most autoflowering strains - require very little feeding - compared to regular Mary. I would not start your seeds in hot soil (nutrient rich). You can mix up your ferts - guano's, manures, & worm castings - into soil. Just start your plants in a low nutrient soil, then transplant into the hot soil later. Then only use water, after the transplant.
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Subcool has a good thread on Super Soil, in his Organic's sub-forum. Give it a read, I think it will help.
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A simple receipe for a five gallon mix of hot soil - 3 gallons of spaghum peat moss, 1 gallon of compost, 1/3 cup of High N Bat Guano, 1/3 cup of High P Bat Guano, 1/3 cup of Dolimite Lime, 4 cups of Worm Castings, 4 cups of Perlite. Mix thoroughly. Turn / fluff every 3 days - Let cure for 10-15 days. In place of the spaghum peat moss - you can use coco fiber or bagged seed starting mix (like Jiffymix Seed Starting Mix).
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:22 PM
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wow i thought it would be much easier to tell u the truth! im ordering from here http://hydroponics.eu/cat.asp?category=184-Guano but i dont see big differences in npk of the guano isnt this guano enough? do you have any better place to suggest for ordering? my only issue about ordering somewhere else where it will have all the things u say is the site having all growing equipment i need and this site has it all thats why i found the guano proposal interesting otherwise i could still go organic with cellmax nutes
http://hydroponics.eu/product.asp?Id...nic+Grow+1L%A0
http://hydroponics.eu/product.asp?Id...+Booster+1L%A0
http://hydroponics.eu/product.asp?Id...er+Power+150ml
but if i used these solutions i would also need a good ec meter and i have no experience in creating solutions. any advice on this? also im in europe so american sites wouldnt help much if anyone has to propose a good site that has equipment and the necessary nutrients and soil. thanks for the info it sure was helpfull



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Old 12-06-2008, 02:04 AM
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Got2loveit..... The Bat Guanos I use do have different numbers... The High N is 9-3-2 and the High P is 0-7-0. The one in your link is a bit low on the Nitrogen. I'd shop around.
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Bat Guanos alone will get the job done.
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If you can find it, I have a bud that grows his little autoflowering strains in Happy Frog Potting Soil. It's allot cheaper than the FoxFarm Ocean Forrest and has enough NPK in it, to carry the plants until week 5 with nothing else added.
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If i bought this guano i would be set right?? it has high N and high P http://www.gardenallyear.com/store/i...productId=1117
i could also get good soil from this site i was thinking
http://www.gardenallyear.com/store/i...productId=1421
whats ur opinion? like the fert. below has exactly 0-7-0 is it maybe better i get 2 guanos??






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if you could advise me on a soil solution and what ferts i need to so i can get all i need with one order from this site i would really appreciate it because i feel soooo lost when checking all this out!!!! or if u have another site to propose
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do u know which of n p or k are most useful during flowering? as i think of it now i would like a premade soil that i could use for my seeds and grow them for 20 days(the low nutrient soil) and then transplant into the same soil i used for first grow with this guano(link http://www.gardenallyear.com/store/i...productId=1117) that has the same properties as both your guanos together. from what i see in your mix u use very little guano compared to other nutrients(worm castings). where can i find worm castings? is there soil i can use that already has all i need besides the guano in it? will this soil do both for the hot soil mix and the low nute mix?
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:26 AM
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i just noticed this site doesnt ship to europe any good site for getting what i need? thnk you
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can i use fox farm planting mix or Happy Frog Potting Soil for my seedlings or are these considered hot soils?? if i use the hf after week 5 how will i supplement my feeding is the guano going to be used here?
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i cant seem to find any site that ships to europe what i need for my soil anyone can help?
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lowryder has a short veg time 14-21 days during this period they need NITROGEN to attain maximum size before budding use the guano when they start to bud worm casting tea is a good nitrogen source- nitrogen in tea is available faster than just adding the castings to the soilless mix good luck
 

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