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    legalize it, tax me out the ass for it, and regulate me seven ways until sunday.

    but please stop calling me a criminal for conducting mutually beneficial transactions between two consenting adults after the wickedly dangerous act of watering a plant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    Some are NPO, and will help you. I must admit that most assistance in the MMJ community is for Low Income. I endorse this direction.

    Some people bitch because they're used to getting black market price for their meds. Some bitch because they can't afford $10 a gram, or even 5, when treating Severe Pain, or Anxiety. I feel recreational users should be taxed up the ass, just as alcohol or tobacco. But to try and profit off of medical conditions is no better than Big pharma!
    i agree tax recreational users, but not medical. and hopefully insurance will someday help cover the costs, but services cant function without making money, even non-profits try to raise more money then they spend to try to ensure they can always pay salaries and operating expenses. and by allowing MMJ buisnesses to make a profit and build up capital, they can continue to expand there service, and incur the necessary operating costs to keep quality standards up. buisnesses need money to invest in higher quality services, to expand retail locations, they need "rainy day funds", they need money to cover salaries and overhead expenses, pay rent, pay utillities, etc. there are alot more costs involved besides the cost of the cannabis.

    the way big pharma makes money is wrong. but making money in and of itself is not. it is essential to the proper running of any business or establishment that offers goods or services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd123 View Post
    i agree tax recreational users, but not medical. and hopefully insurance will someday help cover the costs, but services cant function without making money, even non-profits try to raise more money then they spend to try to ensure they can always pay salaries and operating expenses. and by allowing MMJ buisnesses to make a profit and build up capital, they can continue to expand there service, and incur the necessary operating costs to keep quality standards up. buisnesses need money to invest in higher quality services, to expand retail locations, they need "rainy day funds", they need money to cover salaries and overhead expenses, pay rent, pay utillities, etc. there are alot more costs involved besides the cost of the cannabis.

    the way big pharma makes money is wrong. but making money in and of itself is not. it is essential to the proper running of any business or establishment that offers goods or services.
    At least with an NPO, your money goes towards better services. Don't forget subsidies for the poor. =) With a for profit business, your just improving the car the owner drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    At least with an NPO, your money goes towards better services. Don't forget subsidies for the poor. =) With a for profit business, your just improving the car the owner drives.

    actually most NPO's are a scam. take UNICEF for example. only 4% of the money goes towards "the cause", and yet the head of the program has a 1.6 million dollar sallary + benefits.

    and profit does alot more than help the owner buy a new car. Again profit is essential to running a business. Do some reading about business and the importance of capital. and again even non-profits try to raise more than they spend through endowment funds and such.

    non-profits can be corrupt and evil. and for-profits can be great and provide quality service. both can be good and both can be bad it depends on who's running it and how their running it. i wish people wouldn't get so caught up in the "profit" aspect of things.
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    jd123 thank you for your post, to find charity where 20% makes it to the targeted group is hard to find. I thought I was going to have to say those things. Not for profit groups may not make money but that doe not preclude the owners from having paid business trips (vacations), company vehicles, paid meals etc.
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    the state of oregon doubled fees for OMMP and reduced services (you have to mail it in now).

    they have no problem making millions off of cannabis, but god forbid someone try to feed themselves or pay their rent with their excess meds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    the state of oregon doubled fees for OMMP and reduced services (you have to mail it in now).

    they have no problem making millions off of cannabis, but god forbid someone try to feed themselves or pay their rent with their excess meds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd123 View Post
    actually most NPO's are a scam. take UNICEF for example. only 4% of the money goes towards "the cause", and yet the head of the program has a 1.6 million dollar sallary + benefits.

    and profit does alot more than help the owner buy a new car. Again profit is essential to running a business. Do some reading about business and the importance of capital. and again even non-profits try to raise more than they spend through endowment funds and such.

    non-profits can be corrupt and evil. and for-profits can be great and provide quality service. both can be good and both can be bad it depends on who's running it and how their running it. i wish people wouldn't get so caught up in the "profit" aspect of things.
    I appreciate the enthusiasm. I'm abreast on business practice, thanks. Obviously the proprietor has a lot to do with how the business operates. I wonder what the 1st responsibility is of an NPO? And a for profit business? A for profit business has several responsibilities, the first being profit. All decisions must be made with the investors in mind. If you want a for profit business and want to be Robin Hood, you better have a very giving board, or a huge pocket. NPO's can take advantage of volunteers, donations, Etc. As for profit being essential for a business, no. Overhead costs are recovered, or you have a loss. If you're breaking even, your rent, utilities, Etc are payed. Profit is profit. Either your putting your money back into the business or your not.
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    P.S. I wish there was a MMJ NPO as large as Unicef...LOL. I'm talking a small NPO dispensary.
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