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    i have sat an watched this for a while and originallly wasnt going to get involved. but enough is enough and i feel since i am 100% certain i understand the laws i should help clarify

    A. the feds have alot more to worry about, they dont have unlimited resources and i can absolutly guarantee you we will not have our MMJ laws taken away anytime soon. that is paranoid nonesense. the movement has become way to big and they do not have to power to shut everyone down, and they are starting to loose the political will. they will ONLY go after people who are in violation of state law.

    B. You are correct about sales being illegal. and most dispensaries are operating in a grey area (grey does NOT mean illegal). but it IS perfectly legal to accept re-imbursment for the cost of growing as pursuant to 475.304 (7) . The part that forbids sales says you cannot exchange cannabis for consideration, in order to met the legal definition of consideration you have to either require payment, or pre-agree to payment. But if you are donating meds to a patient, and they voluntarily decide to donate some money to help pay for your growing costs, that is perfectly legal under Oregon law. and to say no its not because the feds say so is absurd. by the feds standards EVERYTHING MMJ related is illegal. so it is a moot point. you are in just as much violation of federal law as someone who is "selling"

    C. If someone is growing 10 LB's than they are not only violating federal law, they are violating state law. each patient can only posses 1.5lbs of cannabis, and no grower can be growing for more than 4 patients, 1.5X4= 6lbs. Unless of course your registered grow site is a Collective grow with multiple growers.

    i would recommend not getting you legal advice from voter power, and actually read the laws, and related court cases yourself. if you cannot understand them, find a lawyer to talk to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H R Puff N Stuff View Post
    dont be fearfull of losing what you voted for feel empowered to make it more accessable for those who need it.
    thats why i give my exes away to other ommp indoor grower, not sell or ask 4 reimbursements.i know what it cost to grow very good quality meds for just a couple hundred buck.. tell me why does one need to recoup that cost, that is not nothing.

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    we all that are in the ommp program know this and are doing so illegally under fed law including yourself, so go ahead and close my thread down,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygirls View Post
    thats why i give my exes away to other ommp indoor grower, not sell or ask 4 reimbursements.i know what it cost to grow very good quality meds for just a couple hundred buck.. tell me why does one need to recoup that cost, that is not nothing.
    what about the ones who cannot grow for whatever reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mygirls View Post
    thats why i give my exes away to other ommp indoor grower, not sell or ask 4 reimbursements.i know what it cost to grow very good quality meds for just a couple hundred buck.. tell me why does one need to recoup that cost, that is not nothing.
    You are still breaking federal law by growing it in the first place. As for everyone else not growing on the same budget, not everyone has a greenhouse made out of sticks found on the ground. Some people grow indoors where they PAY for lights, electricity etc...
    Again get over yourself, and think before you post. You come across like someone with their head up their ass, and just talking to hear themselves talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd123 View Post
    i have sat an watched this for a while and originallly wasnt going to get involved. but enough is enough and i feel since i am 100% certain i understand the laws i should help clarify

    A. the feds have alot more to worry about, they dont have unlimited resources and i can absolutly guarantee you we will not have our MMJ laws taken away anytime soon. that is paranoid nonesense. the movement has become way to big and they do not have to power to shut everyone down, and they are starting to loose the political will. they will ONLY go after people who are in violation of state law.

    B. You are correct about sales being illegal. and most dispensaries are operating in a grey area (grey does NOT mean illegal). but it IS perfectly legal to accept re-imbursment for the cost of growing as pursuant to 475.304 (7) . The part that forbids sales says you cannot exchange cannabis for consideration, in order to met the legal definition of consideration you have to either require payment, or pre-agree to payment. But if you are donating meds to a patient, and they voluntarily decide to donate some money to help pay for your growing costs, that is perfectly legal under Oregon law. and to say no its not because the feds say so is absurd. by the feds standards EVERYTHING MMJ related is illegal. so it is a moot point. you are in just as much violation of federal law as someone who is "selling"

    C. If it is true you are growing 10 LB's than you are not only violating federal law, you are violating state law. each patient can only posses 1.5lbs of cannabis, and no grower can be growing for more than 4 patients, 1.5X4= 6lbs. Unless of course your registered grow site is a Collective grow with multiple growers. but some prosecutors consider that a grey area too

    i would recommend not getting you legal advice from voter power, and actually read the laws, and related court cases yourself. if you cannot understand them, find a lawyer to talk to.
    i only have 1 1/2 lbs on hand at one time. the rest stays on the bush tell i get to the next patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygirls View Post
    we all that are in the ommp program know this and are doing so illegally under fed law including yourself, so go ahead and close my thread down,
    I will not do that, as there is no just reason to do it other than spite. I'm not in high school anymore thus I will not take that action. I made the post to prove a point. Obviously it went above your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mygirls View Post
    i only have 1 1/2 lbs on hand at one time. the rest stays on the bush tell i get to the next patient.
    Oh so you are circumventing state law, and outright breaking federal law. If we lose our rights to OMMP I am going to blame it on you for circumventing state law to suit your needs.
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