taking a plunge in AN's line up.

Originally Posted by tree king

ok just wanted to make sure our ratios were similar. so if you were using the sensi bloom from day 1 than you would add big bud the second week instead of overdrive? im starting to notice that with some strains if i use grow the first 2 weeks than the plants stretch a little too much. i switched and im doing the bloom from day 1 now since the pheno i picked was the most sativa. it has plenty of nitrogen anyway ive never had a problem before

i use grow for days 1-14 of 12/12 and just add about 100-150ppm of bloom part B which is 1-5-4 i think; or something like that. then at day 14 i switch to bloom nutes and 100-150ppm of grow part a which is 3-0-0. piranha, tarantula, and voodoo juice for days 1-14 of 12/12. then the rest of the additives from day 14 on.

i find that the bloom formula just doesn't cut it for those first 2 weeks. i don't have any problems with stretching. my plants double in height which is exactly what i want. keeping them under MH light and on veg nutes those first 2 weeks works for me. the plants are basically in a veg stage at that point anyway. plus the veg nutes the first 14 days and the N boost the rest of the way helps me avoid N deficiencies later in flower.

Originally Posted by tree king

phil its fuckin insane whats goin on in my flower room right now. plants are 5 days into flower and if it was ebb n flow it would probably take 1 1/2 to 2 weeks to get here lol. aero for life! im gonna have to probably chop some leaves later in flower to make everything fit

that's awesome man. if you have good misters then you plants really uptake the nutes in those aero systems. that's why i'm switching out to UC. nutrient uptake is insane in those systems too.

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoobyDoo

that's awesome man. if you have good misters then you plants really uptake the nutes in those aero systems. that's why i'm switching out to UC. nutrient uptake is insane in those systems too.

yeah my boy does uc and loves it. he has to use bleach though or else he gets slime, glad i dont have to worry about that. i cant believe how fast my res is getting depleted right now. the plants are drinkin like crazy and i havent even lowered the lights all the way yet. i was mainly talkin about my situation phil, if you were me and using the bloom only from day one what would you use the second week big bud right?

Originally Posted by tree king

yeah my boy does uc and loves it. he has to use bleach though or else he gets slime, glad i dont have to worry about that. i cant believe how fast my res is getting depleted right now. the plants are drinkin like crazy and i havent even lowered the lights all the way yet. i was mainly talkin about my situation phil, if you were me and using the bloom only from day one what would you use the second week big bud right?

yea, i would run the big bud week 2 if i were you. then, depending on what else you have i might run it all the way through.

slime is easy to keep out of your system without running bleach. if you have a good tea or run the right enzymes and bacteria then you'll be good to go. also, keeping the water 62-65 degrees helps a lot. you gotta run those UC systems with chillers.

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoobyDoo

yea, i owuld run the big bud week 2 if i were you. then, depending on what else you have i might run it all the way through.

slime is easy to keep out of your system without running bleach. if you have a good tea or run the right enzymes and bacteria then you'll be good to go. also, keeping the water 62-65 degrees helps a lot. you gotta run those UC systems with chillers.

your def right about the chiller my boy just doesnt want to run one. this seems like one of the advantages of aero im pretty sure im never gonna have to worry about this slime. im running bloom the whole way, b-52, bud candy, roots excel first 2 weeks, and rhino skin. what do you recommend i do as far as big bud and overdrive is concerned? the only other thing im gonna try out down the line is bud factor x

Originally Posted by tree king

your def right about the chiller my boy just doesnt want to run one. this seems like one of the advantages of aero im pretty sure im never gonna have to worry about this slime. im running bloom the whole way, b-52, bud candy, roots excel first 2 weeks, and rhino skin. what do you recommend i do as far as big bud and overdrive is concerned? the only other thing im gonna try out down the line is bud factor x

i would just keep an eye on your reservoir in that system. you might not need a chiller; it really depends on the environment. you do wana try and keep the water under 68 if you can though. easy fix is just to buy a few 1 liter water bottles. freeze them and drop one in your res every once and a while. you'll get the timing down after a week or so as to how often you need to change them out.

if i were you i would run big bud from week 2 through the end. see how it does for you. i know the feeding chart says only weeks 2-4 i think. that's cause they want you to switch to overdrive. i'd run it all the way through.

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoobyDoo

i would just keep an eye on your reservoir in that system. you might not need a chiller; it really depends on the environment. you do wana try and keep the water under 68 if you can though. easy fix is just to buy a few 1 liter water bottles. freeze them and drop one in your res every once and a while. you'll get the timing down after a week or so as to how often you need to change them out.

if i were you i would run big bud from week 2 through the end. see how it does for you. i know the feeding chart says only weeks 2-4 i think. that's cause they want you to switch to overdrive. i'd run it all the way through.

phil can you explain why i should run it till the end? i dont wanna mess up any yield and money isnt a problem to buy both

Originally Posted by tree king

phil can you explain why i should run it till the end? i dont wanna mess up any yield and money isnt a problem to buy both

you're not gonna mess up any yields tree. trust me. it's just a K booster with a little N in it which i think will help you through flower. you have the bottle already so why not use it. then when you are done with it you can get the overdrive and run just that through flower. you don't have to follow their chart to the "T". you can mix and match stuff as needed. every strain is different and their chart is generic just like everyone's is. i'd start by just running the big bud all the way through and see how your plants do. if anything you will see they need a little more P maybe. then you can adjust for that real easy if you need to. overdrive can mess your plants up REAl fast if you aren't careful with it.