after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part

Originally Posted by The Growery

oh ya I am well aware, but I only vegged for 6 weeks (check out my grow journal) and it was my first grow so I had to buy clones and 4 was all I was willing to purchase. for 4 plants vegged for 6 weeks, 3 lbs is pretty good. I will never use AN nutes... some of their additives are things the plants produce naturally like.... B-52 LOL. to each their own though, good luck!

You produced 12 ounces per plant which is really good regardless of how many watts you were running. Well done!

Wow, I'm not even going to claim I've read everything posted in the last few days. Some of you guys have way more free time than I do (or don't post during "free time" as the case may be.)

Homebrewer - I'm not going to get into a futile argument with you trying to prove I don't work for AN. You've abundantly demonstrated that your mind can't be changed about anything that relates to Advanced Nutrients. Besides, any classically-educated person knows the futility of proving a negative. Barring the ability to prove a contradicting positive such as where I do work, which obviously raises concerns to safeguarding my identity, it can't be done. And even if I could somehow prove to your satisfaction (if such a quantity of proof even exists) you would/could simply claim that I also worked for AN. It's an argument that is impossible to win for anyone. I could ask you to prove you don't work for Wal-Mart. Short of proving your identity and providing tax forms you can't do it.

The same identity concerns are why I don't post photographs, which makes the idea of any grow journal a little silly. Those who are familiar with how computers work know the lunacy of believing anything, once on the internet, is ever deleted can understand. Until such time as I am personally satisfied it's possible to post a picture that cannot - using any current or future technology - be traced back to me I will continue to err on the side of safety.

So I'm not going to bother launching into a lengthy and fruitless debate on the topic with anyone, least of all someone who's willfully chosen to be immune to reason. The mere fact that you see everything I do in commercial terms, and believe I'm "pushing" products when I rarely ever actually recommend someone buy something and when I do I am more likely to be recommending someone get fewer things than what the actual salesman at the store says they need... well that just proves to me that you view me the way you want to see me and not with any actual clarity.


A very apt observation was made earlier in this thread. If you do a search for Advanced Nutrients on this forum, or for Dyna-Gro, this guy's name turns up a lot. Think about the effort involved to track down and post on every thread that mentions those two nutrients. That's thousands of posts. Definitely not a job I'd want. Then frost that cake with the fact that he's the first one to point fingers and call someone a shill. It doesn't take a Freudian psychologist to form a theory on that. We see in others what lurks within ourselves. The first person to accuse another of cheating is usually a cheater. Liars see liars in everyone they meet. Empathy is nothing more than a projection of our own ego into another person's place and using that to predict how we would react if we were them. So the darkness within ourselves is the darkness we most commonly see in other people, reflected in the mirror of our own ego.

The real tragedy for those suspicious-natured finger-pointers is that it might never occur to the rest of us to suspect them of anything until they bring up the topic. Homebrewer might never have been seen as anything but a confusingly eager AN-hater if he hadn't brought up the topic of being a shill.

I've come across at least a few dozen experienced growers through RIU, GC and a bunch of other forums. They all have their
preferences for nutes. But many are using GH/Lucas formula and Dyna-Gro w/excellent results using the KISS approach, including
Advanced Nutrients.

I can say I've learned both from tree king & homebrewer. I do have my disdain for sock puppets, that's for sure. I've been called
one once (inquisitively mentioning mykos product names), so I know not to jump to conclusions as well.

very good post hugetom i agree

i just measured some of my tallest plants and there 38". big difference between those 22" midgets i had last time with dyna gro. thats almost double the fuckin height lol! cant wait to see my final yield

Originally Posted by hugetom80s

Wow, I'm not even going to claim I've read everything posted in the last few days. Some of you guys have way more free time than I do (or don't post during "free time" as the case may be.)

Homebrewer - I'm not going to get into a futile argument with you trying to prove I don't work for AN. You've abundantly demonstrated that your mind can't be changed about anything that relates to Advanced Nutrients. Besides, any classically-educated person knows the futility of proving a negative. Barring the ability to prove a contradicting positive such as where I do work, which obviously raises concerns to safeguarding my identity, it can't be done. And even if I could somehow prove to your satisfaction (if such a quantity of proof even exists) you would/could simply claim that I also worked for AN. It's an argument that is impossible to win for anyone. I could ask you to prove you don't work for Wal-Mart. Short of proving your identity and providing tax forms you can't do it.

The same identity concerns are why I don't post photographs, which makes the idea of any grow journal a little silly. Those who are familiar with how computers work know the lunacy of believing anything, once on the internet, is ever deleted can understand. Until such time as I am personally satisfied it's possible to post a picture that cannot - using any current or future technology - be traced back to me I will continue to err on the side of safety.

So I'm not going to bother launching into a lengthy and fruitless debate on the topic with anyone, least of all someone who's willfully chosen to be immune to reason. The mere fact that you see everything I do in commercial terms, and believe I'm "pushing" products when I rarely ever actually recommend someone buy something and when I do I am more likely to be recommending someone get fewer things than what the actual salesman at the store says they need... well that just proves to me that you view me the way you want to see me and not with any actual clarity.


A very apt observation was made earlier in this thread. If you do a search for Advanced Nutrients on this forum, or for Dyna-Gro, this guy's name turns up a lot. Think about the effort involved to track down and post on every thread that mentions those two nutrients. That's thousands of posts. Definitely not a job I'd want. Then frost that cake with the fact that he's the first one to point fingers and call someone a shill. It doesn't take a Freudian psychologist to form a theory on that. We see in others what lurks within ourselves. The first person to accuse another of cheating is usually a cheater. Liars see liars in everyone they meet. Empathy is nothing more than a projection of our own ego into another person's place and using that to predict how we would react if we were them. So the darkness within ourselves is the darkness we most commonly see in other people, reflected in the mirror of our own ego.

The real tragedy for those suspicious-natured finger-pointers is that it might never occur to the rest of us to suspect them of anything until they bring up the topic. Homebrewer might never have been seen as anything but a confusingly eager AN-hater if he hadn't brought up the topic of being a shill.

as he again buries his head in the sand

Originally Posted by Trich Fiend

wow treeking. now i see why you didn't want to talk about nutes in the other thread. lol. good luck man. looks like you got your hands full over here.

yes sir no doubt lol

il post more pictures in the next week. the plants im growing barely put out any buds in the first 5 weeks so theres nothing to really see right now

just stick with what you like treeking. nutrients will be debated till the end of time. everyone has an opinion. some guys get all fired up about them as if you were discussing politics or something. if you like sensi then stick with it. dyna nutes aren't really any cheaper than sensi. maybe $15 more for sensi and sensi is about 20% more concentrated so it all works out in the end. you don't need any more additives with sensi than you need with dyna.

Originally Posted by Trich Fiend

just stick with what you like treeking. nutrients will be debated till the end of time. everyone has an opinion. some guys get all fired up about them as if you were discussing politics or something. if you like sensi then stick with it. dyna nutes aren't really any cheaper than sensi. maybe $15 more for sensi and sensi is about 20% more concentrated so it all works out in the end. you don't need any more additives with sensi than you need with dyna.

very important post right here thank you trich fiend!

HOMEBREWER IS 100% WRONG SAYING DYNA GRO IS ALOT MORE CONCENTRATED THAN ADVANCED NUTRIENTS

after you add everything up the sensi 2 part might be like 15% more money but 10 ml of a and 10 ml of b is more concentrated than 10 ml of dyna gro bloom i ran some tests and heres what i found

630 tds 10 ml of dyna gro bloom in a gal of water
790 tds 10 ml of sensi a bloom and 10 ml of sensi bloom b

a gal of sensi 2 part a&b is like $73

a gal of dyna gro bloom is like $50

these nutes are basically almost the same price do the math! i should mention though that dyna gro grow is alot more concentrated than the bloom so theres an advantage there. i got 985 ppm with 10 ml of grow in a gal of water