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    So i have the full "grand-master-grower" line up... I'm using coco and supplementing with SensiCal Bloom. I'm about 4 weeks into flower and the buds are just starting to show... So, using the calculator, and mixing the additives 1st - i am getting about 700ppm with just the additives alone!!! - next i slowly add Grow Micro Bloom taking me to my target ppm... 1176ppm No signs of burning but was expecting a bit more... Just wondering what people are doing - additives 1st then base nutreints??? base nutrients 1st then additives??? Or should i scrap the additives altogether as its lowering my concentration of base nutrients??? Help!
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    When the plants are at the flowering stage,you should always add the pk spikes first then mix and leave to stand for a few mins.After they have stood for a few mins then add the 2 part nutes or one,i use coco a and b then at week two i use the same nutes a/b with big bud from advanced.3 weeks before the end of the grow i use pk 13/14 from canna,i have only just started to use this grow formular,but since useing this i have been getting 36 oz from 4 plants 3 of the plants produced 10 oz per plant with one,the runt throwing me 6oz.I never go on what the container says,i have done but i had more problems then i did good.I always go lower during veg;wk 1 1.1,ec wk 2 1.2,ec wk 3 1.3ec wk 4 1.4,ec flowering 1st week 1.5 nothing other than canna a/b for the 1st week of 12/12 off 2nd week big bud and canna a/b continue this for 4 wk.Then just canna a/b till 3 week before end of the grow,This is normaly week 7 because i always flower for 10 wk sometimes 9 i add pk 13/14 and canna a/b then flush once 70 percent of hairs are couloured.hope this helps tyke.............................................. ......

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    So i see you are mixing Canna and Advanced Nutrients.... I like the look of the Canna line-up but i decided to go AN all the way as i already had their supplements (plus i ordered a shit load of Grow Micro Bloom...) Keeping it AN all the way for a while anyway - i just haven't got an official answer back from them yet regarding this... If i was to go by their chart the ppm's would be far higher than the target ppm on their calculator. I.e - 4ml/L of Grow Micro Bloom (as they recommend...) plus all of their additives (2ml/L...) would make the ppm rocket sky high.... I add the additives 1st (approx 700ppm...) then top it up with Grow Micro Bloom to aim for 1176ppm (wk 4..) - the only things i miss out are bud factor X and bud ignitor as i feel they are overpriced. So i end up with about 700ppm of additives and i add about 10ml (10L bucket hand watering...) each of Grow Micro and Bloom and this takes me up to about 1176ppm in total. I read on another forum that this is the best way to do it but the plants look a bit underdeveloped for week 4. I have asked advanced for an official answer but i am still waiting....
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    Call them up. They have a support line you can call. But you want to add your base nutrients first( micro,bloom,grow ) then add your other nutrients. The base nutrients are the most important to the plant, the others are just supplemental nutrients. Then if your ppm is still too high add plain water to drop ppm. Slowly work your way up till your at max ppm. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitewidow2 View Post
    So i see you are mixing Canna and Advanced Nutrients.... I like the look of the Canna line-up but i decided to go AN all the way as i already had their supplements (plus i ordered a shit load of Grow Micro Bloom...) Keeping it AN all the way for a while anyway - i just haven't got an official answer back from them yet regarding this... If i was to go by their chart the ppm's would be far higher than the target ppm on their calculator. I.e - 4ml/L of Grow Micro Bloom (as they recommend...) plus all of their additives (2ml/L...) would make the ppm rocket sky high.... I add the additives 1st (approx 700ppm...) then top it up with Grow Micro Bloom to aim for 1176ppm (wk 4..) - the only things i miss out are bud factor X and bud ignitor as i feel they are overpriced. So i end up with about 700ppm of additives and i add about 10ml (10L bucket hand watering...) each of Grow Micro and Bloom and this takes me up to about 1176ppm in total. I read on another forum that this is the best way to do it but the plants look a bit underdeveloped for week 4. I have asked advanced for an official answer but i am still waiting....
    I have damn near the whole AN line up. Here is my chart. Note I add the additives at 1/4 strength so i dont have your PPM Problem. Im usually under 100 after all the additives are in then i raise the ppm accordingly with the A&B. So if AN says 2ml/Liter i do 2ml a Gallon. Has served me well so far. Also depending on your PPM meter you may be way higher than you think you are in terms of EC unless your using a conversion chart like the one I have inserted here for your convenience. I would never go over 2.0EC at the most
    2012-01-19 15.08.09.jpg PPM-EC-C.jpg

    Once all this AN is gone ill be switchin to Canna Coco lineup with PK13/14. MAYBE 1 or 2 AN bloom boosters but prob just the same as burning good $. Note that i have subbed the AN Humic & Fulvic for Bio-Ag and the Rhino Skin for Silica Blast to try and somewhat keep costs down.... and I said no to all the Humbolt county junk i scratched out on here.
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    When I used to use AN my ppm would go upwards of 1400ppm in week 4ish. I'll admit i did have a few nutrient def probs and I believe it was because I added too much but I think you coulod get up to 1200ppm with no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpill View Post
    When I used to use AN my ppm would go upwards of 1400ppm in week 4ish. I'll admit i did have a few nutrient def probs and I believe it was because I added too much but I think you coulod get up to 1200ppm with no worries.
    1200 ppm on what brand meter? Lol

    I have a Hanna, which 1000ppm is the same as a Eutech meter at 1280ppm or a Truncheon meter at 1400PPM, thats why I said 2.0 EC and attached the chart. Stupid America and our "Standard" measurements lol

    Although at 1000 on my meter I see no sign of burn, and i bet I could go higher. I also dont think feeding anything higher will really do much other than use more nutes. But I could be wrong
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    Thanks Az!!! I will try 1/4 strength additivies next time and then add my Grow Micro Bloom up to 1400ppm (Bluelab Truncheon) for the last 4 remaining weeks... The calculator doesn't make it clear... if you went with their measurements then im sure you would get burn!!! Im thinking of Canna next time round also - they seem to have a good reputation But for now - she really needs hit with a good dose of base nutrients!!! Thx for your help +rep

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    it was the blue lab trencheon . I didn't know that diff tds pmeter had diff measurements ! thanks !
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    You should add your base nute first and that should be like 700ppm then add your additives to get to the ppm you want thats what i do i use AN also.

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