Bud Blood Experiences

**eDude** · 06-02-2012, 10:21 AM

well.. years of being on the market and the fact that is backed by well established horticulture science and has generated millions of dollars in sales means something is working. The fact that you don't know enough about it to even know HOW it's used with out killing your plants is further proof of your lack of qualifications to even speak about it with any authority at all. You should spare yourself of further embarrassment and just zip it.

**eDude** · 06-02-2012, 10:23 AM

Pop Quiz Ben.

How do you use bud blood? Explain in your own words.

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**eDude** · 06-02-2012, 10:31 AM

If anyone would like to know how to use bud blood, or anything like it, correctly just ask and I'll lay it out. It's amazingly easy and it a good alternative to PGR's that are not healthy for you or the people consuming your plants.

**Uncle Ben** · 06-03-2012, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by eDude

well.. years of being on the market and the fact that is backed by well established horticulture science and has generated millions of dollars in sales means something is working.

Yeah, and a thousand flies on a pile of shit can't be wrong.

and the fact that is backed by well established horticulture science

What "well established horticulture science" are you referring to? A few kids' anecdotal evidence or an AN ad?

I gave you the science on what happens if you use such a ratio exclusively but as usual, you being the sucker you are for snake oils and smooth talkin' shysters choose to ignore it. For example, it's a well known fact, or it's well known to me, that high P levels induce stretch and micro deficiencies. Ultra low N levels during flowering induces leaf necrosis resulting in less production. Simple sciency. Every other whine in the Plant Problems forum is from folks experiencing yellowing leaves and losing them.

and has generated millions of dollars in sales means something is working.

Damn straight, but not for the right reasons. No question about it, AN are marketing genius's. They understand their market (prey on the ignorant) and know how to hype it up.

Your "millions of dollars" is pure conjecture. I doubt if AN has 1% of market share regarding all fertilizer and supplemental products that are available, and there are thousands.

The fact that you don't know enough about it to even know HOW it's used with out killing your plants is further proof of your lack of qualifications to even speak about it with any authority at all. You should spare yourself of further embarrassment and just zip it.

Me embarrassed? I'm not the fool.

**Uncle Ben** · 06-03-2012, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by eDude

If anyone would like to know how to use bud blood, or anything like it, correctly just ask and I'll lay it out. It's amazingly easy and it a good alternative to PGR's that are not healthy for you or the people consuming your plants.

Thanks for the sales ad produced by AN.

Another ditty from "well established horticultural science", eh? This is hilarious!

**eDude** · 06-04-2012, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by eDude

If anyone would like to know how to use bud blood, or anything like it, correctly just ask and I'll lay it out. It's amazingly easy and it a good alternative to PGR's that are not healthy for you or the people consuming your plants.

Like I said, if anyone needs help just ask.

thanks.

**Isisyogi** · 07-09-2012, 02:18 AM

I've gotta put in my 2 cents. Been growing hydro only a year. First grow, bought into what the boards were saying, spent money on shit that made matters worse. Second grow, came across Uncle Ben's approach, tried to blend his philosophy with board consensus, still had tons of problems. Next grow, I did one reservoir as board consensus, one reservoir as UBs advice. Hands down, better results with UB. Now, I keep it as simple as possible. Use Dyna-gro, best my plants have done. I have hundreds of dollars worth of half used bottles that did nothing but provide me problems, wasted my time and poorly effected yield. My cheap ass DG has proven to be effective and hassle free. I can leave my hydro grow alone for 1-2 weeks and my girls don't have issues. Buying into "snake oil," as UB calls it, I had issues every few days.

So while you may not agree with his methods, I've experimented and found his way is most fruitful. What I don't understand is why everyone has to get so bitchy and personal. So you don't agree. Get over it. If you like your way, great if it's producing.

Bottom line is that you can't reinvent the wheel, plant botany is plant botany. I've seen UB attacked for pointing this out time and time again.

It's a fucking weed, it knows how to grow.

**eDude** · 07-20-2012, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by S7M

Edude, your a complete fool.

Your arguing with one of the best growers the cannabis world has known because he sticks with botany and not bullshit forum paradigms that have you by the balls.

He's been cited in the growers bible for helping out on it and has been posting on these forums probably for longer than you've been growing, actually very likely, because if you were growing very long, you "should have" learned something besides hype and bs marketing

Whatever.. lol

So, tell us about what ben is cited for and how you followed that advice.. how did that work out for you? LOL

**eDude** · 07-20-2012, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Isisyogi

I've gotta put in my 2 cents. Been growing hydro only a year. First grow, bought into what the boards were saying, spent money on shit that made matters worse. Second grow, came across Uncle Ben's approach, tried to blend his philosophy with board consensus, still had tons of problems. Next grow, I did one reservoir as board consensus, one reservoir as UBs advice. Hands down, better results with UB. Now, I keep it as simple as possible. Use Dyna-gro, best my plants have done. I have hundreds of dollars worth of half used bottles that did nothing but provide me problems, wasted my time and poorly effected yield. My cheap ass DG has proven to be effective and hassle free. I can leave my hydro grow alone for 1-2 weeks and my girls don't have issues. Buying into "snake oil," as UB calls it, I had issues every few days.

So while you may not agree with his methods, I've experimented and found his way is most fruitful. What I don't understand is why everyone has to get so bitchy and personal. So you don't agree. Get over it. If you like your way, great if it's producing.

Bottom line is that you can't reinvent the wheel, plant botany is plant botany. I've seen UB attacked for pointing this out time and time again.

It's a fucking weed, it knows how to grow.

I can't explain why people give bad advice or why people take it as gospel.

When you live around a lot of growers and personally know a lot of growers (not on the web) then you compete with them. Weed is like beer in these parts. At the party you and everyone else's bud is being judged. This is a great thing. If I didn't see what others can do. Taste what a strain can taste like then I would have never know'n how good it can be. You're more then welcome to be happy. I'm not saying you're not. But, I'm telling you you're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. For however good you think it is, it's potentially much better. Yes, there is hype and BS products out there. But there are some that work really well and it just plain chemistry and science.

Put it this way.. if you'd never been in a car, a 62' VW would seem fast a fuck and you wouldn't dream of being able to go any faster..

**Uncle Ben** · 07-23-2012, 07:45 PM

Bonzi treated male that was destroyed today. Peak 19 backcross, very Colombian phenotype. 4 cola trained. 4 month + veg, just showing sex. Only fertilizer used was a slow release, 12 month, 18-5-8 at time of potting. Healthy and green with very little leaf loss with a profuse fibrous root system.

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