Advanced Nutrients B-52. Is it worth the price?

I am looking at the bottle of B-52 right now and nothing is said about a foliar spray? just states application rates of 2ml through weeks 3-6 of flowering phase. I also went onto their website and cannot find where it states Foliar spray? help. thanks

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoobyDoo

how are you guys using b-52? even on the advanced site it says it should only be used as a foliar spray during veg. this is exactly how i use superthrive most of the time. and superthrive isn't ONLY hormones. the main additive is b-1 supplements. and i don't think hygrozyme has any b-1 in it. i may be wrong but it's an enzyme and wouldn't enzymes break down vitamins?

I use and its worth the price for me....FREE, go to their website and request a free sample and they will send it out to you. I do that with a lot of supplements. I have gotten many free samples by visiting companies websites and sending them a email telling them you are comparing supplements to see what works best for your garden. Most companies will send you out free samples. Try it, whats the worse they say, no we dont offer free samples.

B-52 and Silica Shield will keep your plants strong in adverse conditions. They are the only supplements I use now.

Peace

FM

I can't seem to find too much difference between many of the supplements for growing...as for specially formulated for Mj, that is unnecessary selling techniques...You can use tomato food with great results...it is a plant, much like other plants...no need for specially formulated anything...

Originally Posted by Mikey Bones

I am looking at the bottle of B-52 right now and nothing is said about a foliar spray? just states application rates of 2ml through weeks 3-6 of flowering phase. I also went onto their website and cannot find where it states Foliar spray? help. thanks

here's a copy of their veg feeding schedule.

Vegetative growth

We do not recommend applying any nutrients until your plants have developed 3-4 sets of new or true leafs if grown from clones or seedlings. Also, if growing in amended soil, do not apply any nutrients until the plants have used up all the nutrients supplied by the soil. Having said that, here is what we suggest:

Until they develop 3 or 4 sets of new (clones)/true (seedlings) leaves feed them only water. You can foliar spray them with Jumpstart, use application rate suggested on the bottle or 1/4 strength B-52 (1 mL/liter) until then. You can also add 1/4 strength applications of Piranha, Tarantula or Voodoo Juice, to the water that you will use in the root zone.

Week 1 – 300 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 1ml/L of part A and part B (2ml in total) + Foliar spray B-52 once per week at the 2ml/L application rate.
Week 2 – 600 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 2ml/L + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 3 – 900 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 3ml/L + Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 4 – 1200 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 4ml/L + Voodoo Juice + Foliar spray B-52.

If it is necessary to veg your plants for a longer period of time then 4 weeks, continue with the 4^th week application rates. Apply voodoo juice for up to three week in a row, to properly inoculate the root zone, after which, you can discontinue the application. Also, we recommend growing your plants in veg until they are about 1/3 of their final finish height, since the plants will put on anywhere from 1/2 - 2/3 more vertical growth in the bloom stage. That is, if you want to finish your plants at 6 feet tall, veg until they are 2 foot.


for flower they do recommend it for week 3 until you flush. i've just never used it as a root zone application after i tried a few runs without it and never saw a difference. besides the fact that it's pretty much common knowledge now that b-1 vitamins really don't aid a plant in the root zone. i've seen a bunch of evidence about it on the forums and the internet. plus there are much cheaper ways to get fulvic and humic acid supplements. besides that all b-52 has is a ton of potassium and vitamin b.

May it be a gimmick? Maybe. But I'm seeing some good results after adding it up to my nutes mix. Next on my list is testing out voodoo juice, which cost waaaay more than B-52

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoobyDoo

here's a copy of their veg feeding schedule.

Vegetative growth

We do not recommend applying any nutrients until your plants have developed 3-4 sets of new or true leafs if grown from clones or seedlings. Also, if growing in amended soil, do not apply any nutrients until the plants have used up all the nutrients supplied by the soil. Having said that, here is what we suggest:

Until they develop 3 or 4 sets of new (clones)/true (seedlings) leaves feed them only water. You can foliar spray them with Jumpstart, use application rate suggested on the bottle or 1/4 strength B-52 (1 mL/liter) until then. You can also add 1/4 strength applications of Piranha, Tarantula or Voodoo Juice, to the water that you will use in the root zone.

Week 1 – 300 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 1ml/L of part A and part B (2ml in total) + Foliar spray B-52 once per week at the 2ml/L application rate.
Week 2 – 600 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 2ml/L + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 3 – 900 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 3ml/L + Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 4 – 1200 ppm: Sensi Grow A/B apply @ 4ml/L + Voodoo Juice + Foliar spray B-52.

If it is necessary to veg your plants for a longer period of time then 4 weeks, continue with the 4^th week application rates. Apply voodoo juice for up to three week in a row, to properly inoculate the root zone, after which, you can discontinue the application. Also, we recommend growing your plants in veg until they are about 1/3 of their final finish height, since the plants will put on anywhere from 1/2 - 2/3 more vertical growth in the bloom stage. That is, if you want to finish your plants at 6 feet tall, veg until they are 2 foot.


for flower they do recommend it for week 3 until you flush. i've just never used it as a root zone application after i tried a few runs without it and never saw a difference. besides the fact that it's pretty much common knowledge now that b-1 vitamins really don't aid a plant in the root zone. i've seen a bunch of evidence about it on the forums and the internet. plus there are much cheaper ways to get fulvic and humic acid supplements. besides that all b-52 has is a ton of potassium and vitamin b.

Where are you finding this? Everything I can find on their website says "Use 2 mL per Liter during weeks 3 through 6 of your flowering phase, and during all weeks of vegetative growth." Same as what I've been doing.

To the original question, IMHO B-52 is absolutely worth it.

Regarding scooby's earlier question about enzymes, they don't break down everything they come into contact with. Enzymes simply facilitate chemical reactions without being used up in the process. Each enzyme does a particular thing. For example, humans can't digest wood because we lack the enzymes necessary to do so, whereas termites have bacteria and such in their digestive tract that produce those necessary enzymes. So different enzymes do different things. The enzymes in question do not (at least afaik) break down vitamins.

Originally Posted by hooked.on.ponics

Where are you finding this? Everything I can find on their website says "Use 2 mL per Liter during weeks 3 through 6 of your flowering phase, and during all weeks of vegetative growth." Same as what I've been doing.

To the original question, IMHO B-52 is absolutely worth it.

Regarding scooby's earlier question about enzymes, they don't break down everything they come into contact with. Enzymes simply facilitate chemical reactions without being used up in the process. Each enzyme does a particular thing. For example, humans can't digest wood because we lack the enzymes necessary to do so, whereas termites have bacteria and such in their digestive tract that produce those necessary enzymes. So different enzymes do different things. The enzymes in question do not (at least afaik) break down vitamins.

call advanced nutrients support line and ask to talk to one of their nutrient experts. anyone is fine...they're all gonna say the same thing. then ask them to send you a feeding schedule. they tell you to ONLY use b-52 as a foliar spray in veg and for the mid-flower in the root zone.

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoobyDoo

call advanced nutrients support line and ask to talk to one of their nutrient experts. anyone is fine...they're all gonna say the same thing. then ask them to send you a feeding schedule. they tell you to ONLY use b-52 as a foliar spray in veg and for the mid-flower in the root zone.

I just tested your theory, and you're wrong. The guy just said "oh no, we always say to use it in the root zone. It makes a great foliar spray, sure, but we wouldn't tell anyone to only use it in a foliar spray." I'm probably paraphrasing a little there, but that's what he said.