The Official House and Garden Thread

**jdizzy** · 10-08-2009, 11:33 AM

Before I got chillers, I would use three to four frozen 2 liter bottles each day for a 55 gal res.Never drops below 65 that way. Works well, but kind of a pain to lug them around.

**LoudBlunts** · 10-08-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by SmokeyMcChokey

i may be lucky but i disagree... i have run 2 strains(tho thats not much) every time and been nearly no burn and no def's at all. i use GH flora nova but dont really care for it and am looking for a new nute company although the need for R/O water turns me off severely i try to use distilled but i cant trust myself to say i would only use it...

maybe/consider yourself lucky?

maybe the two plants that you grow together like the same nutrient ratio?

**KnowledgeSeeker** · 10-08-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by LoudBlunts

my waterfall effect came into play with the addition of a chiller. i raised my return from my chiller to the res up higher than water level to create waterfall, which creates aeration (something about surface tension, blah blah blah)

yes i use a chiller. i think a 1/4hp will be decent for your 55gallons

just my humble opinion

Thanks LB. Your humble opinion is very valuable to me. I don't have the resources right now for chiller but it is now on my wishlist.

**LoudBlunts** · 10-08-2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by KnowledgeSeeker

Thanks LB. Your humble opinion is very valuable to me. I don't have the resources right now for chiller but it is now on my wishlist.

not a problem brother. i enjoy helping. dont hesitate to ask. i like exercising the brain.

like a previous user mentioned...you can freeze water bottles...

i had to do that for a period of time, but that shit started pissing me off and it got tedious...so i pressed the fuckit button

hope everything works out in your favor!

**KnowledgeSeeker** · 10-09-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by LoudBlunts

...so i pressed the fuckit button

I love that saying. We'll see how long I can deal with it or how soon I free up some cash...

**Mcgician** · 10-09-2009, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by KnowledgeSeeker

I love that saying. We'll see how long I can deal with it or how soon I free up some cash...

Aren't you growing in rockwool cubes or slabs? While a slightly lower res temp does hold more DO in it, which is a desirable trait, the thing that will most affect the temperature absorbtion rate is the overall temperature of your grow room. Rockwool holds a lot of water, and after even just 15-20 minutes, the ambient temperature of the air will raise the temperature of your growing medium anyway. You would have to flood your tables/trays, extremely frequently in order to keep the entire medium at 65* for any length of time. If you do that though, then you risk overwatering your plants, which will give you a host of other problems. IMO, the cost of the chiller, and the cost of running it, don't measure out in results unless you're doing aeroponics, or nft style setups.

**LoudBlunts** · 10-09-2009, 02:30 AM

freeze some 2L bottles

it wont hurt :P

**LoudBlunts** · 10-09-2009, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Mcgician

Aren't you growing in rockwool cubes or slabs? While a slightly lower res temp does hold more DO in it, which is a desirable trait, the thing that will most affect the temperature absorbtion rate is the overall temperature of your grow room. Rockwool holds a lot of water, and after even just 15-20 minutes, the ambient temperature of the air will raise the temperature of your growing medium anyway. You would have to flood your tables/trays, extremely frequently in order to keep the entire medium at 65* for any length of time. If you do that though, then you risk overwatering your plants, which will give you a host of other problems. IMO, the cost of the chiller, and the cost of running it, don't measure out in results unless you're doing aeroponics, or nft style setups.

correct!!

ebb & flow and drip type systems have more of a crutch in hydro, because of the medium requirement... the temperature of the water isnt as crucial.

Oxygen in mediums are based upon overwatering and underwater. If the medium is constantly soaked you have little to no oxygen in your medium. As it dries...this is when it get 'airy' perse.

however, any standing water can get attacked by cooties, just keep it covered and in a cool place and you are fine.

**LoudBlunts** · 10-09-2009, 02:36 AM

i agree with mcgician if you are ebb & flowing.... i dont think it would be worth the benefit of putting a chiller on the water, unless it sits at 80-90F all day long.

and even still you can just change your water more often

**purrrrple** · 10-12-2009, 11:17 PM

Hey LB im gonna start a new thread called "coli flowers?". Please come over and gimme a hand on this one im gonna need it. I think youll enjoy it if i can ever get it right.