I Have these plants under some cfl's for now, i will have my mh tomorrow, they are around there fifth nodes, i have had them on 18/6 for the last few days after havng them on 24 cycle from seed....there a few weeks old and growing just great, how can i tell when there male and female without turning the females into males, ive searched and cant find a straight answer, i know what the males and females look like whne its possible to tel- but ....when is it possible to tell without screwing everything up and shocking the plants....heres a few pics i took last night, since than i trimmed the fan leaves a bit just to let some more light to the stems...i was told that after 18/6 for a while i will be able to tell, than somone else told me that it will not show under 18/6 and i dont want them to grow till there huge and than have to dispose of all the males in my apartement building, if anyone can help i would really appreciate it...thank you so very much!!!

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Looking danky dindy!!The only things i could advise is place them in a 12/12 environment or take cuttings and put the cuttings in a 12/12 environment and leave mother's too keep vegging under lamps.

they are all from seed no mothers yet, isnt it waty too early to put in 12/12???

Don't plants pre-sex before flower? I knew mine were female before 12/12

i dont know thats what im thinking and i cant get a straight answer...about how far into veg could you start telling??? what kind of lights did u use for veg?

you are in a dilemma. if you let them veg long enough to pre-flower - they are going to be pretty big. and the only way to tell soon - is to switch to 12/12. But if you switch to 12/12 now just until they show sex and then revert back to veg - you may cause them to hermie (and will definitely mean more time to flower).

My advice is to grow them in veg as long as you were planning to and then switch to 12/12. Rather than throwing your males away in your apartment building - put them in a black plastic bag and throw them in a dumpster away from where you live.

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he he he this is gonna be a tough one theres like honestly 50 of them he he he thats gonna be real tough wish me luck than guys!!!

50!?!?!! you better worry more about the smell than the garbage!

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will using a metal halide light help in determining the sex sooner....the metal halide works way faster than cfl or t5's right?

lol i know eh...well we have a good idea for a filter and my budddy says it worked well everytime for him...is it possible that they have a small small odor right now this small...i noticed kind of a pot stink very mildly coming from where they are now...maybe it was just my joint smokin lol