will these seeds produce good pot

where i live right now there is shitty weed being sold with a bunch of seeds and stems compacted together with bud. Hope you understood that. what im wondering is, if that weed wasnt that great and im growing seeds from it can i grow better bud than what i smoked. i believe they just didnt grow it correctly and it came out like that. people call it "mids" but i thought that means its middle grade weed. Around here people think its called mids because it has stems and seeds in it with little bud. Some one help me clear this up. THanks

if you grow that weed out and take care of it and when you harvest it you dry and cure your nugs properly it will be good smoke

commercially grown pot isnt cared for properly...they normally dont seperate males from females and smash all the weed together into a brick which is why you dont get nice seedless buds as you would if you grow your own and take care of it

mids are the same around here....

I had the same question bout seeds, one of the reasons Im here. I'm experiementing now with my first grow, planting both a crappy bag seed and a couple feminized snow white seeds...Can't wait!

give it a try for sure bro.. i had a friend grow some bag seeds out of a poop bag of reggie and they turned out to be good qual. -quality was about the same as some beasters.

Do you guys realize how stupid that shit sounds,mids,reggies,beasters,dro,crips, its all stupid as hell,the only thing that seperates top flight smoke from commercial grade smoke is the care put into growing it,seeds & stems within the bag have zero to do with the quality of the smoke,i'll say it again,seeds & stems play zero part in the qulity of the smoke.

Calling weed stupid shit like dro or crips has shit to do with quality,seedless sensi weed can be just as shitty as premature brick weed,its 100& in how its grown.

Save your cash & skip seed bank seeds,there is no need for them,dont buy into that genetics bullshit,the genetics to grow kick ass smoke are allready within the seeds that come from a bag of weed,if taken care of properly they will produce buds that will stand up against any strain sold from a seed bank.

Ive smoked weed that had an assload of seeds that blew away most sensi weed,get the whole crips,mids & reggies bullshit out of your train of thought,plant some seeds & grow dope,if you grow it right you'll be able to call your bag seed plants crips, or some other cool shit once its done,its all in the grow man.

AMEN PANHEAD AMEN, my babies(2 girls from bagseed) are doing rather well I think, cant keep them down for the life of me!!(LST) 2nd week into flowering, hope they become respectible buds

Idk....We're just talking. And this is Newbie Central right? I guess it sounds stupid to someone who knows better. But I'm just learning.

panhead, while most of US know that basic info you gave, you ripped his asshole a second port!!!!!! DAMN MAN!!! that made ME feel bad and im not inexperienced in the least!!! rep up for tha info tho...

thanks for everyones advice. I never really understood mids and all that but now i can tell them there is no such thing. Its just how you take care of it. Apperciate all the advice and comments.

KidCreole said:

panhead, while most of US know that basic info you gave, you ripped his asshole a second port!!!!!! DAMN MAN!!! that made ME feel bad and im not inexperienced in the least!!! rep up for tha info tho...

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I wasnt trying to rip anybody anything,i fully understand why new growers believe they need to invest in expensive seeds to get good smoke,there is so much misinformation being portrayed by people who are clueless as how to really grow good smoke & how its done,this misinformation is then carried to an anxious new growers wallett by having them waste money.

Alot of times new growers come into this thinking they can get some expensive seeds & due to genetics they will automatically end up with great weed,my comments are directed twords letting new guys know,right off the bat, that if they intend on growing the end result will be a direct reflection of how much effort was put into learning how to grow,how much effort put into setting up the proper enviroment & the quality of light the plants are getting,in most cases genetics play the least part of all.

All weed can be great or dirt weed,the grower decides.

are you saying that all seeds in all seed banks is a waste of money? what do you think of lowryder 2? that's my next grow. any thoughts?

panhead is right, any old bag seed can be grown into some righteously good smoke in the hands of a competent grower. a lot of what ruins "commercial" pot is the way it gets cured and then packaged and shipped.... take the dankest bud you have ever seen and cram into into a tight 50 kilo brick and move it around like that for a couple months and see what type of schwag you wind up with in the end.

what seed bank seeds do provide though is known genetic traits... such as those Lowryder 2's... instead of the pot luck that might get you a monster sativa plant, you can pretty well be assured you will get a small autoflowering plant if you buy Lowryder seeds.

the seed banks allow us to look at the characteristics of a plant and decide what would suit our growing styles, our enjoyment tastes or even our medical requirements.

they also allow a better shot at getting some fresher seeds of known good quality rather than some 2 year old seeds that might be inbred all to Hell and cross pollinated by some left over WWII Indiana grade ditch weed.

good grows make for good buds... good cures and storage make for some GREAT buds. the inverse is true.

I know it can be frustrating when others are clueless! lol.. What about the feminized part? To be honest, it was the most influential componant in my decision to spend money at a seed bank. The strain is cool, but the fact that there will be no surprise males in my pots seemed worth the $ 2 me. But mayb I'm just being a noob? Is my fear of males exaggerated?

Mids is just a way of describing weed. Mid grade. Not the best, not the worst, in the middle. I also agree that some good weed can be grown from bagseed. I've done it, in fact, i grew bag weed for my first 4 grows. I grew seeds from about 10 different bags, all different weed. Some were good, some werent.

I agree with most everything panhead said. He is right that if you dont give the plant everything it needs, it wont be good, not matter what the genetics. And good bud can be grown from bagseed. However out of about 100 plants sprouted, about 40 females grown to maturity, there was only really one of the plants i was PROUD of. Now let me say that i am a pot snob. I regularly pay $500 a zip for the best i can get here. This is the kind of weed that i want to grow, but although everyghing i grew looked good, lots of crystal, harvested, dried, and cured properly, i wasnt impressed. The people i sold it to loved it, but they are easily impressed. For my 5th grow, i ordered seeds from BCBD, Sweet god and Purps. out of the 8 females i got from those seeds, there were 5 that i liked and were proud of. I like that ratio a lot better, than the 1 of 40 females i grew from bagseed. The other thing i was absolutely amazed with was how fast they grew (hybrid vigor my friend, cant get that from bag seeds.) I also got at least double the yield of my best bagseed plant, and much larger stalks, and bushy plants (they were bred for this.)

For newbs, my advice is to grow bagseed, or whatever you have to just get started. JUST GET STARTED! If you have an xtra hundred bills laying around, by all means, order some inexpensive seeds from a breeder. Listed below are my biggest reasons that i will probably not plant another bag seed.

1. no hybrid vigor. If you have grown f1 seed, you know what i mean.
2. Most of the seeds from mersh here is from mexico. In this part of the country sativas are the best plants to grow, since it is outdoors. Sativas are very tall and stretchy, not good for indoor growing.
3. If you take a seed from a "good" bag of bud, with hardly any seeds, chances are it was polinated with a male flower on a female plant (hermaphrodite) and the offspring will also probably be hermies too. (Of course not always, but most of the time.)

There are more reasons, but this post is getting too long. All i am saying is that i grew a LOT of bagseed, and only grew a few bred seeds from BCBC, and from that experience, i will never grow bagseed again.

Now panhead is absolutely right on that a newb cant expect to get good results just cause of genetics. Absolutely true. But once you know what you are doing, you WILL grow bigger, faster, and better tasting bud with bred seed, especially f1 seed stock. It just depends on your goals. If you just want to grow something pretty good, bag seeds are okay. If you wanna grow some of the best stuff available, you need the genetics. But good genetics grown bad will not produce good bud!!!

Now remember, i have much higher expectations for my harvest than most people. I want to grow and smoke the best, and that is why the best genetics are necessary for me.

I think that we will both agree that no matter what you wanna grow, just do it!! Grow whatever you have. Marijuana isnt addicting, but growing it is!!