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Old 02-21-2007, 06:02 AM
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I am going to start growing weed properly.
I am going to start off by purchasing some propagation stuff from this site
Basement Lighting Hydroponics and Grow Lights UK
I have some nice ak 47 seeds so im starting from the beginning.
I have a room cleared out ready for a setup, the way i want to have it is. I want to section the room into 2 so that 1 part is for my mother plant(s) and cuttings and the other part for flowering.
I'm going to start off by purchasing the stuff i will need to grow my seedlings the first month, and then when i have some more money the following month i am going to purchase everything else i need.
I wanted to start off by purchasing this propagation kit
Basement Propagation Kit: Basement Lighting Hydroponics and Plant Grow Lights
But i also wanted 1 of those plastic trays with those feeder spike things like on the mr green i grow cronic video.
At first i was looking at purchasing this to go with the propagation kit.
Nutriculture Gro-Tank GT 424: Basement Lighting Hydroponics and Plant Grow Lights
But i was thinking once i put my seedling into those bigger rockwool cubes, don't i have to feed them from the top like in the mr green video. or will feeding them from the bottom like in the above NFT system work fine ?
After my seedlings get bigger i was wanting to put them into pots with clay pebbles or something like that, for when they become my mother plants.
Because i want this to be an on going system. I plan to flower 10 plants at a time once i get to that stage. So i will constantly have cuttings from the mother plant growing in 1 section of the room, ready to plant once i harvest the plants in the flowering section. And for the flowering section i was thinking about using this wilma 10 pot system Atami Wilma Hydroponic Dripper 10 Plant System: Basement Lighting Hydroponics and Plant Grow Lights

Any help appreciated

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Old 02-21-2007, 06:46 AM
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What was the question?

If you're new to growing, I'd forget hydroponics - you really do need to know what you're doing with hydro and it's very easy to get it wrong and lose your entire crop. Start from the bottom - start with soil, it's far more forgiving of errors and you can make mistakes which can be easily remedied unlike with hydro.

If you're confident you can do it - go with hydro, but I'm warning you now - it has a much steeper learning curve, you need to understand water EC, water PH, nutrient levels, you'll need an accurate PH meter and EC meter and/or nutrient truncheon.

I'd back off, read and learn more about what you're getting yourself into and then decide which system will be best suited to your needs.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:03 AM
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What was the question?

If you're new to growing, I'd forget hydroponics - you really do need to know what you're doing with hydro and it's very easy to get it wrong and lose your entire crop. Start from the bottom - start with soil, it's far more forgiving of errors and you can make mistakes which can be easily remedied unlike with hydro.

If you're confident you can do it - go with hydro, but I'm warning you now - it has a much steeper learning curve, you need to understand water EC, water PH, nutrient levels, you'll need an accurate PH meter and EC meter and/or nutrient truncheon.

I'd back off, read and learn more about what you're getting yourself into and then decide which system will be best suited to your needs.
Thanks.
I guess my question was, am i buying the correct stuff and going about it the right way ?

I'm not a total noob. I have allready grown 6 plants in soil. (ak47 from wich i got over over 9 ounce) Using just buckets 2 high pressure sodium lamps and trays underneath the buckets wich i manually filled with distilled water and nutrients once a day. I got the cuttings from a freind.
But that's all in the past. I want to do it properly this time.

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you need to understand water EC, water PH, nutrient levels, you'll need an accurate PH meter and EC meter and/or nutrient truncheon.
I understand all that very well.

I have watched lots of growing guides but they all use different setups to the 1's that are available to me. So i was just wondering if the system i plan to get isgoing to work out ok.
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ola to you to insane.We apoligize for thinking you are a noobie. At least I missed that part about starting to grow weed properly. I guess that means you were growing it improperly before? 9oz ain't bad, guess you already knew that or you wouldn't have said it. Something as simple as "I'm starting my second grow" would have been helpful.
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Sorry i thought i would of just gotten some simple replies, along the lines of yes that proposed setup will work, or maybe that setup is ok but i think you should change this or do this.
If all i'm going to get is lectures then i guess ile just leave.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:34 AM
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Sorry i thought i would of just gotten some simple replies, along the lines of yes that proposed setup will work, or maybe that setup is ok but i think you should change this or do this.
If all i'm going to get is lectures then i guess ile just leave.
Thanks.
What do you mean 'just get lectures'? You come on here asking for advice on a proposed set up when no-one has a clue what your knowledge and skill level is. If you're a complete twonk the most appropriate system in the world isn't going to work, if you're a growing genius you'll create wonderful plants out of very little - it's all in the skill and knowledge of the grower mate.

People assume you're a complete newbie, because you post this in the newbie section, now you turn round and say well actually I've grown plants before and I do actually understand PH, EC and nutrients.

You're not looking for advice, you're looking for affirmation because you're hesitant as to whether that is the best system or not. I can't say if that's the best system for you, because I don't know how knowledgeable and competent you are - only you know that. I'll just repeat what I said earlier - hydro is a steep learning curve, very easy to fuckup if you don't know what you're doing. Growing in soil and hydro are worlds apart, plants grow quicker in hydro setups and need a lot more attention and maintenance than soil setups, have you got the time to put in? Have you got the time to constantly monitor them? Make adjustments and take measurements as and when necessary to water EC, water PH, nutrients quantities?
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Sorry to bust your ego's but growing weed isn't even hard.
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no but doing it right can be. most people shoot for a goal, like mine is to get 4.25oz off one plant using LST and virtually no veg time. i suggest going to DIY route with the hydro. it will save tons of money and get the added benefits of knowledge of how all hydro systems work. even if you do fuck it up you will have learned in the proccess. isnt that why were here? check out the homemade aeroponic bubbler systems. for cloning and flower http://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=...article&id=196
the cloner i made is a 60 site and houses them untill there roots are big enough for flower.
http://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=...article&id=197
these can be used for all stages of life and have amazing success rates/stories. and are cheap. or ask al b fuct for adice on a homade NFT 28 site system for 118$! what about lights for flower? with the money you save doing it yourself you can afford the best!
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I am really glad too see we didn't lose you completly. It has been so long, I forgot I ever said that. I think the whole point of this forum is that growing weed isn't hard.
Did you end up going with a drip system? I did and regret doing so. It looks real cool when everything is going right, but it is cumbersome as hell. BY the time I take out the dripper and place it out of the way and do the same with another plant, you could have changed the position of 6 plants in a flood and drain. I am divising a plan now to change mine.
Have you taken a look at Al B Fucts thread, "How to get a harvest every two weeks". I think it has a lot of information from someone that has been doing this for a long time. Just ignore all the back and forth bull about lights.
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:56 AM
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Thank's, i just took all your post's maybe a bit the wrong way because i have been on forums in the past and asked simple question to wich i should have received a simple answer yet all i get is. How long have you been growing blah blah blah. you don't need 2 know just answer the damn question.

Anyway i got 2 propergation lights 1 for my cuttings and 1 for my mothers. i have an nft system wich i have added drippers to so i got 16 drippers and an uprated pump to power them. I aim to have 16 cuttings at a time ready to go into my 16 pot wilma system located in my grow tent wich has a mantis 600 watt bad boy, i baught a propper digital ph tester and ph up/down to make sure the water is how i want it. I got an extractor fan for the grow tent with a carbon filter on the end, and i'm going to have some kind of co2 tank ready for when my 16 cuttings eventually go into the flowering tent. I got a thermometer to keep an eye on temp and i'm going to get a hydrometer soon also. I have clonex root riot cubes and rockwool cutting accelerator juice. I also have canna a+b both the stuff for propagation and the outher stuff for flowering.
 

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