first grow..droopy leaves

started out my first grow w/ 4 seeds. grew under 2 4ft flouros for about 2 weeks. Sprouted fine and everything. got a 400hps from my friend and put it about 2 ft abve the plants. couple days later started noticing very droopy leaves and some even dry and yellow at the tips. i had been watering everyday with 10-15-10 plant food. i had 2 fans blowing to keep the room cool from the 400hps. the room is about 4x4ft. now i have the hps off and the flouros back on bc i figured the room got too hott...now the flouros are about an inch from the plants and i have cut down on the plant food.

any reccommendations on how i can get these babies back healthy??

I'd say stop feeding them nutrients every day, maybe even flush them. Other than that I don't know what your temps are so I cant really help you much there, but stay below 90 if you can.

with the hps it was prob hotter than 90...thats why i switched back to the flouros. u think the leaves go burnt from the heat or just too much nuts??

tresamigos05 said:

with the hps it was prob hotter than 90...thats why i switched back to the flouros. u think the leaves go burnt from the heat or just too much nuts??

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That is too hot, but heat stress leads to the edges of the leaves curling up slightly (like a taco kind of)...not drooping. Overwater causes droopy leaves, and from the sounds of it the plant is probably too young for many nutes. Also you shouldn't really be feeding it nutes everyday anyway, do water, water, nutes....or something like that.

ok but is 10-15-10 nuts good for now? also u think 2 3ft flouros work for veg

tresamigos05 said:

ok but is 10-15-10 nuts good for now? also u think 2 3ft flouros work for veg

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I think you should stop using the nutes for now, wait until the plants look like they need them...you need to get rid of some of that build-up from feeding to often. Other than that 10-15-10 will work sure, but less IS more...don't let anyone tell you otherwise Fluoros are great for veg, keep em nice and close.

watering once a day is the way to go tho??
2 of the plants look in better shape now but smaller 2 seem to be very dry and yellow still

anybody have any other advice for me?? help needed please!

I'm no expert, since I am on my first grow and not doing great. But with my 1 gallon pots I am watering every other or every third day and the plants are doing much better then when I was watering every day.

ya what is your set-up? lights and everything?

I have like 40k lumen worth of CFL, 8 plants. Like I said I am no expert though, but what I was thinking was dry and time to water was about a day short. You might try giving the plants a day or two off.

im also new to growing, but i did start to notice a leaf or two turning brown, i checked them everyday so i caught it early, all i did was back off the light to about 6 inches, and i am using a shitty heat lamp for a snake.when i backed em off they did fine. you said yours were about 2 feet away , so im guessing you got wayyyy to much watt, or heat on them i would recommened doing the common sense thing and backing down your power lights a little bit. id think just like feeding and water too much, you could have too much light. also i watered my plant, (2) i have them in 16 quarts of dirt. which is 2 medium sized potting soil bags from the store. and i watered them once a day, but only 1 cup. (a tall drinking glass) i really dont possibly see how 1 drinking glass could be too much, but also gives them enough. and if anything i was told, by a gardner(not of pot, of other decrotive flowers) that underwater a little bit is okay. becuz it will make your plants really stretch their roots to find water, therefore making them have a stronger base. i watered them like this for a week straight, then waited till an inch or top soil was dry, then watered again.

but remember, im a newbie to, so take my information however you want it. hope i could help

ye i did the exact same thing but with a 400W MH lamp. i took it out straight away, hopefully it survives. i need to get a thermometer asap to monitor temp and humidy levels. i think i kept the lamp too close. ye it did the taco leaft curl or whatever lol, cant describe it. anyone know what i can do to speed its recovery, i watered it too cool it down and keeping it away from the mh lamp for a while.

really underestimated this grow light, burnt part of my closet door cos i put it too close, will take care in future.

the NPK levels are fine just make sure your not using to much this early on. Def too much heat coming off the HPS, and if your only a few weeks in you dont need a HPS yet. Much better to go with CFL till flowering.

should i continue to use the mh lamp or take it away completely. mine are also 2 weeks old still. the one plant that was affected has one leaft beginning to brown.

can i still use the lamp but use it at a far distance, if so what would u recommend?

Heat may be an issue, yes we all agree...but that isn't what is making your leaves droop. LemonHerb is right, water less often and your plants should look better. As for the light...more light is better! If you can control your temps you can use that 400w, if you can't then fluroros it is. I have 2 plants under 2 weeks old under my 400w and they are fine, I use the 400 every grow...from seed. Put as much light on them as you can while keeping temps under 90 and you'll be gravy

Droopy leaves typically over watered (even more so if you water every day. More on that in a bit)

Droopy leaves, under watered.

How big are the containers? (the coffee cup/ peat pots will need water more often) If in tiny containers, xplant now. Get into a nice sized pot for the plant. The peat pots and cups are just to sprout and get them going a bit (one or 2 nodes) At that point you basically know the plant is viable (unless stretched, but even still then still)

If they are in a bigger pot, let 'em sit for a few days. Check on them. Watch the leaves. If they start perking up, you are over watered. Droop more: under watered (unlikely form your info) If they pretty much stay the same, something else is wrong.

Browning leaves may or may not be a prob. PICS???? The lower leaves will die off over time. (even some higher ones / inner ones) A few dead leaves aren't something to get overly alarmed about.

If you are using store bought potting soil, it probably has 3+ months worth of time released nutes (people here seem to hate the time released nutes. It does make it tougher to control) Read the label.

Temp and water pH, watch these. Even read the pH of the water draining out. Your water might be killer, but the soil can be out of wack, so you would need to adjust the water (or do a flush possibly. but once the plant bounces back and has hung for a spell. Don't over stress an already stressed plant)
Humidity can also factor in. Keep it in the middle (others can correct these numbers) 30-50% for vegging. (a bit lower for flowering)

How closed in is the room? Does it get fresh air and the CO2 (found naturally in air) from time to time? Is the room ventilated?


Grow big babes!

thanks for the info...my 2 bigger plants are coming around better and i flushed my smaller ones and cut off the dead leaves, so we'll see how that goes now.


oh and bought 2 more 60watt flouros today...

never nuse nutes for plants that are younger then 1 month

FrostickZero said:

never nuse nutes for plants that are younger then 1 month

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hahaha ya i think i learned my lesson there