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    Default How long for pre-germed seeds to break soil????

    I figure this is a common newb question and I am a newb to this so this is the place for me....

    I pre-soaked 6 old ass bag seed in a mild pHed epsom + superthrive 000ppm RO/DI solution last Wednesday at a constant temp of 85deg F for 24 hours. Then placed them in paper towel damped with the same solution and kept them at the same 85deg. 4 of the 6 cracked, which surprised the shit out of me considering I have not the foggiest how old the seeds are other than they are at least 2 years old and were not kept in the best conditions. This last Sunday I planted the popped beans in a screened 50/50 peat & composted steer manure mix which I then cut 50/50 with perlite. I mix my soil in 15 gallon batches and to that I add 1/4 cup agricultural gypsum,1/4 cup epsom salt, 1 cup blood meal, 1 cup cotton seed meal, 1 cup kelp meal, 2 cups fish bone meal and 2 cups rock dust. This is my standard tomato and pepper mix and it's never failed me before. I set the seeds in a < 1/4" depression misted until damp with pHed RO/DI, covered with the soil mix and then misted heavily, but not soaked. The 4 starter pots were then place in a humidity dome and have been kept in the dark at a constant temp of 82deg F since. I've misted the soil once a day since. This is also my standard procedure starting my peppers and maters and it is highly successful for them. Not one seed has broken the soil yet. I figure with each bean cracking and showing from 1/8" to 1/4" of tap root that they are viable seeds. Am I being an impatient cook watching his water waiting for it to boil so to speak and need to just be patient?? Or have I screwed up somehow from the get go??

    This is my first go at growing the sweet sweet herb. But I've been organic gardening fruits and veggies from seed for over a decade. I'm psyched to get these babies in my cabinet. Just posting here for input and to maybe put my mind at ease a little while I wait. I haven't had this kind of anxiety since waiting in the doc's office for my vasectomy.... odd how a growing a simple plant can wind me up so much. In the end if I dicked the bag seed up... no big loss. I am going to do a few grows with the old seed I have left to get a couple grows under my belt before I pop the seed I paid for.

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    mine usually break the soil 1 day after planting under some t5's
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    Thanks.... I sort of figured I had a dud batch. Odd that they'd crack and produce a tap root but not take off in soil.
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    I use a little dome t5 light and I put a heating pad under the dome to warm the soil. Get it very wet and keep it wet and they are up two or three inches in just a few days. The ones I have right now I planted at 6pm on a friday and monday morning when I woke up they were up.
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    A few hours to a day woke up this morning after leaving some fresh sprouts outside to harden for the guerilla sites damn birds got to me.

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    As long as you don't plant them too deep then 1 or 2 days...
    I have better luck just dropping the seed into the soil...usually.
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    Wow, that's alot of love for some old bag seed. If you are really impatient you can uproot them to see if the taproot is still growing but I would wait at least 1 week before pronouncing them dead.

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    i didn't read the op, but you only want to plant them about as deep as the seed is wide, so about 1/4 inch or so.. any deeper and sometimes they might have trouble breaking the surface..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WyoGrow View Post
    Thanks.... I sort of figured I had a dud batch. Odd that they'd crack and produce a tap root but not take off in soil.
    don't give up so soon. i once had a seed sprout from the soil it had accidentally gotten into, but it was like a month after planting, and from half a foot deep

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    "Wow, that's alot of love for some old bag seed."
    Yeah... but it's the process I use for almost all of my plants I start from seed. So I am not actually doing anything "above and beyond". In truth is was pretty killer weed for being fertilized and loaded with seed. I'm sorta looking forward to how this kind smokes if it's taken care of and allowed to grow to harvest unfertilized.

    "i didn't read the op, but you only want to plant them about as deep as the seed is wide, so about 1/4 inch or so.."
    All were planted right at or a little less than 1/4" deep

    "don't give up so soon."
    I don't get home until the 11th. My wife does a good job of taking care of stuff when I am gone. Good thing she smokes as much as I do and is as excited about growing as I am. But she leave the planting, transplanting and what not to me. So they will be getting another week and a half or so to do their thing.

    "I have better luck just dropping the seed into the soil...usually."
    I just might have to give that a shot. But I've always had better luck pre-sprouting. At least then I know if the seed is viable before it's in the ground. Then if they don't come up I know there is an issue of some sore. Some seeds sprout but don't develop though. Just odd I got 4 to start (2 real strong) just to fizzle once in dirt.


    Thanks for the input guys. I do appreciate it. About the only thing that stands out that I am doing different from you guys is I don't have them under light. I've never bothered putting my seedlings under light until they break the soil. I just keep them warm and moist.
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