A new Grower , With Great protencial! HELP!!

Im not sure if that is going to be enough light if your growing all of those plants at once, with that light i would say you could probable grow 4 decent plants. and other then that you need soil, you can choose to buy some which I would suggest fox farm or you can mix your own but since you a beginner i wouldn't suggest it, now if your planning on doing an all organic grow you should be good but if your going to be using nutrients for the vegetative period and flowering period your going to need to by them ether online or at a local store.

I'm new also and can see another first timer has jumped ahead of me, I'm waiting for a book I ordered in the mail to help me get started. But anyways as far as soil and nutrients I hear organic is the way to go. I hear Fox Farm is the best quality organic soil mix. I've also been doing a little reading myself and there are methods of growing a higher yield regardless of strain except maybe lowriders. One of which is the Screen of Green Method where you grow your plant under a screen that it will grow through and using LST (Low Stress Training) you create a canopy resulting in more buds.
As far as germing I mean you can find videos all over youtube as well as in any growing help forum. From what I have seen dampening wet paper towel and sandwiching your seeds in it while in a blown up zip lock bag is the best method. This is done from 2 to 3 days. As far as how much it should be sprouted I don't know. I think the best thing to do is worry about your set up first and then just ask questions as you move along. Good luck on your grow though , first timers give hope to people like me who are still working to be a first timer.

I was planning only growing them in groups of 3 to 4 at one time . And iv herd during flowering (12hrs on 12hrs off) i should use HPS Lights . any idea what kind or where to get these lights ?? Cause all im going to have is the grow lab with the 342W Fl lights to start off. Other than that im going to have to worry about what else i need. But Thanks on the Help with the soil i should be Getting and i will be using neutrinos ,just not sure what kind? i know it will help the plant out alot. As of Germ the seeds i got it down pat. just gotta learn more about putting the stem of seed puttting up or down in the soil? and how long for veg period then when to switch the plant into a bigger pot then placing it under the HPS lights? I pretty much know how to go about all this Steps just learning each time to do each step is what im going to have to learn. As a begginer i learn more n more each day and thank you guys for putting your effort in a way for me and other Beginners lean towards some successful, Beautiful Nugs of Heaven !

Ah yeah totally, its one thing to read up on it and its another to actually do it. I'm convinced growing is an art especially indoors when its conditions depend on you. I will definitely follow along. I plan on doing a stealth grow and had just went and got a tall and wide pc case today.

I think of it as a learning process. Definitely don't overthink it. It is a weed, it just wants to grow. I started with Fox Farms Ocean Forest. It's pretty hot, nute wise. So don't add nutes for a couple of weeks at least, just water. The line up of nutes that I have going is the Fox Farms Trio. For vegging you can use CFL's, but that might take a lot of bulbs. If it's convenient for you, you can find a lot of supplies from online. Just don't buy from the first site you see because prices may vary from site to site.

yea keep it simple .. and try to think logic .. its a plant .. weed .. you want to grow it inside .. what you need to do is to try to copy nature ..

it will need sun/light .. rain/water ... winds/fans .. and food/nutriens ..

you WILL also need a way to keep light out at night time (and I mean all lights) and also a way to keep odour in .. since they will stink .. realy bad ..

.. so a air/light seald room . with a ventilation and activ carbon filter is a must ..
then you can grow with no smell .. keep tempertures down and provide fresh air/co2 for your girls ..

about light .. many ways to go .. dont know anything about LED since they are new and costly .. and dont seems to be doing so great yet ..
guess they need more research ..

I use T5HO for Veg and a 600W HPS for flowering (more or less standard I belive)

about your "friends" light .. a bit expensiv I would say .. at fist glance ..

try to have a look at this site:

http://www.greners.com/i/grow-lights...-fixtures.html

dunno just found it randomly .. but even seems to have a sale ..

atlest show your "friend" it so you might be able to get his for less

but realy its a jungle out ther .. and ther are many ways to do this .. it also depense on your set up/space .. your $/wallet and how much effort you want to put in to this and what you expect ? and if you etc. go with a big MH/HPS you will also need a big ventilation aso ...

do some research .. but a nice set of fluorescent light is a good way to start out .. atlest for Veg. can do some more research/shopping wile they grow big under some nice T5HO lights .. I would strongly suggest you to go with T5HO (HO=high output) if you buy fluorescent and some of the right bulbs (6500K/2700K) stupid so safe pocket money and end up with sumthing that just dont do it for you ..

if 4 plants at the time is a goal for you (a lot of Ppl. who grow for them self do 2-8 .. I belive 4 is quite normal .. fit under a 4 foot T5HO lighting/HPS .. need 6-8 bulb fixtures if you want to go all the way .. 2 bulb can handle seedlings .. I have a 6 bulb and I use it for 4-6 weeks doing Veg .. then I veg a week with my HPS wile I go down in light time from 20 to 12 .. cut a hrs a day or so ..

agin .. many ways to do it .. if you have the money and space ..and maybe a AC if your live in a hot place ?
a nice tent with a 400/600W MH/HPS cool tube and a nice big ventilation/filter would be great Im sure ..

Originally Posted by RealSmokey

buddy that is whilling to sell me a grow lab and a set of 342W 28000 lumen flue scent lights for $220, sound like a deal ??

fist I would ask why 220 ? if he is a buddy 200 even sunds more like it

also .. make sure the tubes is new or rather new .. bulbs last ½-1 year depending on how much you use em of course (T5 last longer then T8/T12 and wont loose as much light doing time) ..

old bulbs is dark at the end of the tube .. if they are old/dark .. tell him you wont buy them bulbs .. only the fixture .. get new bulbs .. right coulor (6500/2700 kelvin)

I found nice new fixtures ..with bulbs or with out ...from 2 -12 bulbs in size .. at prices from 30-350 $


look around .. don't throw money after sumthing that dont cut it .. do it right the fist time .. use a few hours to do some research .. then deside what might fit you based on that .. then do another 2 hours googleing for best prices .. best price might not allways be best .. remember shipping cost and ther is always a small risk buying stuff online .. try to use big/known shops .. see if they have address/phone number .. (avoyd Ebay .. if stuff cost a lot less ther are often a reason)

I mostly do some research/googling .. then see what it cost at my local hydro/grow shop .. if the diffrent is tiny I will buy it ther ..
nice to get it right away .. nice to get it ! ... and if sumthign is wrong or it breaks its also nice .. you also safe shipping as I said .. so diffrent is not allways that big ..

ETC. I could order a 100mm inline ventilation online for around 80$ but with shippin it was more like +85$ and I could surport my local shop and get it right away for 99$ and when I toald him about online prices he gave me the addabter for my filter for free (5$) and some advice ..

hope you can use some of it .. keep asking questions and try to do some research yourself .. ther are a lot of basic growing guids out ther .. google them and read them fist 3-5 .. will give you a nice picture of what to expect ..

here is one that is very nice and easy to use:

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/ho...need-know.html


helpd me a lot in the start and I still use it often to look up stuff ..

Originally Posted by Slipon

yea keep it simple .. and try to think logic .. its a plant .. weed .. you want to grow it inside .. what you need to do is to try to copy nature ..

it will need sun/light .. rain/water ... winds/fans .. and food/nutriens ..

you WILL also need a way to keep light out at night time (and I mean all lights) and also a way to keep odour in .. since they will stink .. realy bad ..

.. so a air/light seald room . with a ventilation and activ carbon filter is a must ..
then you can grow with no smell .. keep tempertures down and provide fresh air/co2 for your girls ..

about light .. many ways to go .. dont know anything about LED since they are new and costly .. and dont seems to be doing so great yet ..
guess they need more research ..

I use T5HO for Veg and a 600W HPS for flowering (more or less standard I belive)

about your "friends" light .. a bit expensiv I would say .. at fist glance ..

try to have a look at this site:

http://www.greners.com/i/grow-lights...-fixtures.html

dunno just found it randomly .. but even seems to have a sale ..

atlest show your "friend" it so you might be able to get his for less

but realy its a jungle out ther .. and ther are many ways to do this .. it also depense on your set up/space .. your $/wallet and how much effort you want to put in to this and what you expect ? and if you etc. go with a big MH/HPS you will also need a big ventilation aso ...

do some research .. but a nice set of fluorescent light is a good way to start out .. atlest for Veg. can do some more research/shopping wile they grow big under some nice T5HO lights .. I would strongly suggest you to go with T5HO (HO=high output) if you buy fluorescent and some of the right bulbs (6500K/2700K) stupid so safe pocket money and end up with sumthing that just dont do it for you ..

if 4 plants at the time is a goal for you (a lot of Ppl. who grow for them self do 2-8 .. I belive 4 is quite normal .. fit under a 4 foot T5HO lighting/HPS .. need 6-8 bulb fixtures if you want to go all the way .. 2 bulb can handle seedlings .. I have a 6 bulb and I use it for 4-6 weeks doing Veg .. then I veg a week with my HPS wile I go down in light time from 20 to 12 .. cut a hrs a day or so ..

agin .. many ways to do it .. if you have the money and space ..and maybe a AC if your live in a hot place ?
a nice tent with a 400/600W MH/HPS cool tube and a nice big ventilation/filter would be great Im sure ..

sounds like good advice ^^^