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    Default BEWARE of newbies "diagnosing" plants...a small bit of advice

    I see this so many times a day and it is just ridiculous... There are even newbies making posts to help other newbies find the same misinformation that they themselves use...

    So here is the deal with nitrogen

    if you are feeding your plant slightly less than recommended dosage, or the recommended dose of nutes then those spots are not a deficiency, unless they are deficiencies caused by some other issue...as in if you have too much nutes already, or your pH is wrong, or you are watering everyday in a 3 gallon pot of soil or something equally as heinous...

    If your new growth is super bright green and your old growth is really dark green then your plants are overfertilized... Adding Nitrogen will not make your new growth turn green again...I can veg a plant for 3 weeks and give it no nitrogen at all, then straight to flower...

    It is easier and best to leave at least a week window between feeding nitrogen heavy nutes for veg, and then switching to flower...

    A lot of people don't worry when their plant starts to turn a little colored when they first switch the lights, because if you were giving heavy veg nutes even with no bad symptoms in veg, that dose will be too much for flower, so if right after switching the lights a few lower leaves start to fry on the tips, or some top leaves curl, Just wait it out for a water cycle...by this I mean water the plant with plain water, then wait for the pot to dry, and then see where the plant is at...you canthen try some bloom nutes, or just more plain water...then switch to your bloom nutes...

    So often I see poor people just starting out get really bad advice from other people that are just starting out and it ruins their whole grow...

    Like when in early flower the new growth starts to yellow and all the newer people are there to say add some nitrogen to help with the yellowing they'll be fine...so this person says alright, they just need some food...feeds them and then sends this plant into a terrible flowering pit of despair that won't be anywhere near as nice, big, tasty, or strong as it could have been...

    All I want new people to take from this is:
    Don't listen to random people on the internet...if you do feel like someone is giving you good advice then check around first and see if they are well received and seem to know what they are talking about..just click their name and check some other posts they have made...
    That reputation bar doesn't mean anything at all...
    Check out the dates, and check some other posts before you decide to lash your cart to their horse so to speak...

    I have messed up following other's advice, and I see so many people tell people to do the exact opposite of what they should actually do, so I just wanted to post a warning if you will of the ills of blinding following someone on the internet...

    Don't be afraid to try things that don't involve chemicals, topping, training, scrog, and LST are all alright, and you can't mess them up...don't be afraid to try something like that....but when someone tells you that your plant needs something don't be so sure...

    Another thing to think on...unless you use Reverse Osmosis or distilled water you will not have a calcium, magnesium, manganese, copper, Iron, boron, zinc, etc deficiency...
    And I see people tell people they have micro-deficiencies all the time... Tap water and well water almost always have these things...and a whole lot of nute lines do too...so micro nute deficiencies in plants being fed nutes, and especially plants utilizing water from the tap will most likely not have micro nute deficiencies...no matter what freaking chart you found that tells you that you have an Iron deficiency---you probably don't...

    Most of the time what is ailing a plant is that there is too much of something, not too little...

    ok..I am done ranting...BEWARE NEWBIES DIAGNOSING PLANTS

    That is all...
    I apologize for my incessant rambling, but if you are patient there is inner hidden wisdom in most of my posts...Like playing literary "Where's Waldo."--------------- See, it's fun!

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    I am a noob, and it is very hard to find true information. I would think the best way to learn would be to do it.
    I am just about to start my first real grow and I am a little nervous about using nutes.
    Do I need to use nutes to get the best yield?
    I was quite interested in trying topping, and perhaps SCROG.
    I apologize if this was not exactly a thread to ask questions. :s

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    Good post! cheers

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    Excellent summary of the pervasive amount of ignorance out on this forum. One more tip of added advice. Pick one good grower and look at their environment. Too often I see a young neophyte attempting to "do too much" or incorporate to many different styles of growing thinking that they are taking the best of both/many worlds. Pick a good grower, examine his garden/set up... speak with him/her and ask the what's and the why's about their technique. Much better than coming on here every day, posting about how awful your plants look, and then listening to every bit of advice that you receive only to over fertilize, buy something you don't need to...etc.

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    lol might be partially my bad. im pretty much a noob to this but i do like to pass on information if read or been told. if im not mostly sure on what im saying ill make a point stating im not sure and to wait for more advice from other users.

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    ya but just cuz someones post count is low doesn't mean that's how long they have been growing or around cannabis....

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    Well said missnu...I got a TON of bad information, from my local HYDRO SHOPS when I first started. Not to mention reading all the conflicting info out there. Though there is certainly a lot of science involved, it's often the art of growing cannabis that is lost in all the noise. You simply can't replace experience and getting to know your plants. I'll add my two pennies;

    Keep it simple
    More is NOT always better...in fact, more frequently- less is more
    Keep it simple
    There is not a magic formula for success
    Did I mention to Keep it simple?


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    its a krypton deficiency, imo
    http://www.dirtdoctor.com/Organic-Re...made_vq204.htm

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    eeww ... I don't want bud that's been krypton. cn
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    superman bud ^^^^

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