Meth On Zombies
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I'm working on a Rubbermaid indoor setup I've got from this site. I want to know, what's the cheapest I can go with light? Could I use 6 23-watt bulbs?
Should I Buy This Light? Help a noob please.
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ULMResearch
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To be honest, if you have any method of scraping up the money (or are really really good at DIY) you shouldn't use anything less than a 400W cool tube with exhaust if you want to grow more than 1-2 small plants.
You can fully grow nice plants and buds with CFLs.. but one single HID will make your life so much simpler if stealth is not a concern and you have a way to remove the heat.
You can fully grow nice plants and buds with CFLs.. but one single HID will make your life so much simpler if stealth is not a concern and you have a way to remove the heat.
Big Tasty Bud
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It wont make any difference .. its all about the intensity of the light let me describe it to you 1, 20 watt cfl is like the sun rising in the morning its very dim to a plant if you increase the amount of dim light x 10 its still going to be the same intensity just more .. say for instance and this is just an example that 1, 20 watt cfl has 100 lumens if you if you get 10 of those bulbs its still going to be 100 lumens this is proven fact my friend i would rather have 1, 200 watt cfl giving off 1700 lumens than 10 bulbs giving off nothing ,,, And also when using a large 200 watt cfl you can hang it verticaly between 4 plants and no light gets wasted ... you just have to rotate the plants every few days but it is deffo much better than those shit little bulbs ... PEACE
KatKat3000
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Thanks for all the info guys but can you tell me your opinions on this light. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CFL-GROW-L...item588ce082d0
Ps I'm a girl so dont really like being reffered to as he lol XD.
Damn just checked the link theyve sold out or something.
Ps I'm a girl so dont really like being reffered to as he lol XD.
Damn just checked the link theyve sold out or something.
KawiZZR
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Real easy way to start with CFLs is to get a bathroom vanity fixture (4 socket preferred), add a couple of y-splitters, and grow inside of a Uhaul box. If you can get a cardboard wardrobe box it'll have a bar across the top you could hang the light fixture from and clip a small fan to on either side of the lights. Then you just need to cut a door flap on one side and start growing! Should be able to fit 4 small plants inside and if you use 8 42w CFLs or something similar you should get good results. Nice thing about it is you don't need the y-splitters and all those bulbs at once. Start off in little cups, with each under a single 6500k bulb, and when they're bigger up-pot them and add the other lights. Use LST to keep the canopy even and you should get a good yield out of it.
Big Tasty Bud
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Dont get that light your wasting your time better off getting 125 watt blue spectrum cfl for veg and 200 watt red spectrum cfl for flowering its really easy use cfl and there is very little chance you will burn your plants unless the light is nearly touching them
KawiZZR
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You're very loud in your opinion. Have you actually tried growing with the smaller CFLs or are you just a parrot repeating what you've been told? Those large CFLs are not efficient, financially or concerning output. And btw lumens is a measure of the light people see from a point source. So while lumens don't add, the available PAR light from adding multiple smaller bulbs does.
KawiZZR
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And Big Tasty, just found that you already had a thread where you asked about using the 200w CFLs and were already informed of the pros/cons of the high and low wattage bulbs. Yet you still continue to tell people to use the larger bulbs, wonder why that is? Did you already buy them and you're sore about it so you want others to as well? This is the thread I'm referencing https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/444374-how-many-200watt-cfls.html and I also noticed how you have a tendency to ask questions and then not reply to or thank any of the people who try to help you.
Meth On Zombies
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Thanks ULMResearch, at the moment I just want to grow 1 or 2 plants to get a feel for it. So I don't want to pour money just to find out I really suck at growing anything.
Big Tasty Bud
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Are you feeling ok in the head lad ? i got some advice and i took it i have used small cfls and they are shit i have also used hps bulbs ,, just because i ask people for there opinion doesnt mean i have to like it or reply to it and like the title of my thread says , HOW MANY 200 Watt CFLs not now many shit small light bulbs , And lumens is the intensity of a light from how strong it is lumen s has a direct relation to how much power is emitted from a source , also it doesn't have to come from a source of light you can measure lumens from a source of heat which has a direct relation to kilojoules dont just google something and think you know what your talking about i have studied this stuff in collage for years my hasty little friend ,, you just cant afford any better than what you have and if you could you wouldnt be using what your using
KawiZZR
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I'm actually feeling quite well, thank you for asking. I wonder if the problems you had using the lower wattage CFLs were related to your experience with them, not the bulbs themselves being poor for growing. Apologies for wondering why you request people's input but don't reply. You're correct in that you do not have to, I suppose some people were just taught a bit more courtesy than others growing up. Lumens only relates to brightness that the human eye can perceive. You can measure lux from a heat source, either by measuring what is in the visible spectrum in the same way that light bulbs are measured, or you could measure the energy in other spectrums such as IR. And if you'd like to relate the energy output from a bulb in kilojoules, then I don't see where adding together the energy released from the bulbs escapes you.
I didn't simply google it, I've taken physics classes on the subject as well, and I take offense to some of what you said. I am neither little nor hasty, and I attend college, not collage. As a working student, no I cannot afford the lighting that I would truly like to purchase. I have no issue with admitting that though, and will tell you that given the opportunity I would love to purchase some top of the line LED lights to replace my HPS and CFLs with. I grow for myself though, not to profit off others, so the lights that I use are appropriate for me. You seem very angry and defensive, please relax man. Forums are for discussion, not yelling at people who disagree with you.
hoss12781
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buds grown under Pro Grow 180 (130w actual). They work they just cost money for the real ones. The savings in electricity over time and expensive HPS/MH bulb replacement over three years it's not that big a jump in cost when all factors are taken into consideration.
buds grown under Pro Grow 180 (130w actual). They work they just cost money for the real ones. The savings in electricity over time and expensive HPS/MH bulb replacement over three years it's not that big a jump in cost when all factors are taken into consideration.
KawiZZR
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If only, if only... Got no money for one currently. Very nice buds man!