Almost Ready to Harvest: Questions

So I know that 8-9 weeks of flower rule is crap, and that even waiting for a certain ratio of certain colored trichomes isn't everything. But here is my dilemma: This is day 63 of 12/12 for my plants. None of them have any amber trichomes that I can find, and I would say that at least 75% (maybe even close to all) of the trichomes are cloudy/not clear. One plant looks done (she'd look better but I went to long without feeding her at one point, so she lost a lot of leaves), and the other 2 look ok but they don't look like bud the way the other does. They haven't been fed nutes since the 19th and I water every 3 days (they've been getting molasses since then).

Do you guys think I should harvest the LST plant and give the others more nutes and time? The other 2 have nice trichome coverage and the trichomes are clear, but they seem to have a higher ratio of leaves to bud than the first plant does.* What I mean by that is well look at the first plant that is sideways, to me it looks like nice finished bud ready to go. Where the other ones are very green, have lots of leaves, the actual smokeable bud part of the bud dosen't really seem like it is there as much. Looking back at my pic log of all 3, assuming the LST plant is done and ready to go, it looks 3 weeks ahead of the other 2 plants. What do you guys recommend I should do? This is my first grow and I have a small PC grow box and a tent (so I guess I could dry the one in the pc grow box while the others keep growing?).

I get the feeling I should let the nicest one continue to go without nutes (it looks as good as its gonna get, doesn't seem to have changed at all in the last week or 2 aside from color) and harvest it in a week or less. And that the other 2 might need to go back on nutes and be given 2 more weeks? *Again its been 9 weeks of 12/12, pretty sure there haven't been any light leaks (on one day the lights stayed on 1 or 2 hours longer than usual, on another day maybe 20 minutes longer but I don't think so). One just looks done, the other two look 2/3rds to 3/4 of the way there... Thoughts, opinions, and advice please!

one of the pics, the one with the thick cola, looks like someone flipping the bird. lol. i'm zoned out and i thought it was flicking me off.

Haha I've thought about that before too! Ok guys I reread my journal and noticed I gave them superthrive a few days into 12/12 and then about 31 days in 12/12. I think that could be part of the reason why 2 of the plants seem a few weeks behind the sideways one (which is that way because I trained it a couple times down one way). I've read superthrive can prolong flowering, so maybe thats part of the problem?

The ones with the Swollen Buds are finished.

Yeah I figured the one that looks done is done, although it still dosen't have any amber trichomes. Do you guys feel that it would be worth it to let it continue to receive molasses with water and light, or that if it isn't showing amber trichomes at this point that it would only hurt the end product to subject it to more light? I guess also I'm kind of looking for a reason why the other 2 aren't even close to being as swollen (based on back log of pics, they are 3 weeks behind the one that looks done). Bagseed and subjected to the same water, nutes, air, etc

I don't know much about the difference between sativa and indica, but by the looks of the plants the difference between them I would think isn't enough to explain the 3 week difference (or is it?).

Ok I guess I'm really asking is if anyone thinks continuing to give the 2 plants nutes/lights/water will help fatten them up, or if its too late for that.

when you think there done give them two more weeks bro!! looks real good!!

Haha, um might it matter that the 2 don't seem to have bulked up at all in the last 3 weeks? *with certain strains are they known to grow a lot the first month, not much the second, and then a bunch in the 3rd? I don't know what the problem is, because I'm pretty sure they were eating the food I gave them.

I would take down the 2 that are swollen. Thats when I normally take mine. Look at my albums and you will see.

riddleme said:

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have you seen the search bar? you are close and yes you can multi harvest. Your still feeding cause it is Molasses Sugar Carbs...
R.O H20 is a proper flush. Wait for it

no man only 1 of them looks swollen. The one that is sideways because of LST is the only one that looks close to done. The other 2 are like 3 weeks behind, they don't seem to have grown much in the last 3 weeks, and start to look less like bud because they just aren't dense like a good nugg, they look more dense as highly covered with trichomes little leaves or something (it probably sounds a lot worse than it is, hopefully you guys can see it the same way as me, it looks there, but only half way to what it should be, or is it just not that kind of a bud that I can get from these? Are they done because they dont seem to have grown at all in the last 3 weeks? Is it ever heard of for that to just happen without any stress shown in the leaves?

Now I just want to know if you guys really think the 2 plants growing straight up will benefit at all with more time. Their trichomes are cloudy, but they haven't bulked up at all in the last 3 weeks, do you guys think that if they haven't grown at all in the last 3 weeks that they might grow more in the next couple weeks? week 10 of 12/12

BUMP? Anyone think that the 2 vertical plants could benefit from any more time even though they haven't fattened up at all in the last 3 weeks? *just started week 10 of 12/12
The sideways plant looks done, the other 2 only look half done But I don't want to waste more time on them if they aren't going to bulk up at all (I figure they won't since they seemed to have stopped growing a few weeks ago, even considering i only stopped giving them nutes 11 days ago)

I'm kind of a newb myself, but I'd say the one that's pulled sideways looks different because it's pulled sideways. Also, the difference between indica and sativa is pretty major, so you probably can't compare them too much at a certain point. Indica will have fatter leaves, sativa are long and thin. Not sure what the buds do though, sorry. Try looking at people's journals and photos if you know the strains you are working with. Find people that have the same strains.

Do you think the difference (indica/sativa/whatever) between the 1 and the other 2 is enough to account for the lack of/zero growth in the 2 vertical growing plants over the last 3 weeks? Its as if 3 weeks ago they gave up on growing, even though I kept feeding them and they weren't showing any signs of stress. I really just want to know if anyone thinks they might bulk up with more nutes and time even though they stopped over the last 3 weeks (can a problem cause them to stop growing without showing any sign of a problem other than the lack of growth?)? They increased trichome coverage (over that 3 week no bulking up period) and they're almost all milky, but no bud growth. The pictures look more impressive than it does in person, in person it looks pretty loose as if it was mostly small leaves and little bud (like it is half way to becoming nice bud maybe). Wouldn't strains that take more than 9 weeks to grow still grow continuously? Do strains that say take 15 weeks to flower stop at one point, then start growing again a few weeks later? I just don't want to waste 2 or 3 more weeks trying to grow them if they won't bulk up anymore

I think you should harvest when most of the trichomes are milky white, when they turn amber they are already dieing and losing potency. Just my opinion.

Well I know all about that, like I said each plant is almost entirely milky (if not all milky maybe my eyes just don't work and I'm too particular) no trace of amber I can find. The one plant looks fat and done, the other 2 have the trichome coverage, they have the milky, but they don't have a fat bud look to them like the first one does I'll take some better pics of it so everyone can see what I mean.

Ok so here is what I'm talking about with the 2 plants growing straight up and down. They are on day one of week 10 of 12/12, subjected to the same nutes and conditions under a 400w hortilux super hps in a 2.7x2.7x6/7 foot grow tent. They look like they still need a few weeks to fatten up, but they haven't fattened up at all in the last 3 weeks! They are yellowing because I haven't fed them since the 19th (back then I was just gonna play it safe and go without nutes for a couple weeks and then end this, but now I don't know because I expected them to at least fatten up a little!).

well are you adding nutes again yet or what, cause they look hungry and you know they aint gonna grow unless you feed em, whats the worst that could happen if you let them go longer? couch lock buds are better then a fluffy yeild IMO

They aren't schedule to be watered again until tomorrow morning, I figure I will give the 2 vertical plants nutes again, but leave the sideways one alone since it looks about done and doesn't have many leaves to use anyway. I'm still not sure if I am just going to harvest the sideways plant tomorrow or not, I think I might water it 1 or 2 more times and harvest it 1 week from now tops. But the other 2 I'm going to try feeding them at least one more time and giving them a little longer. I think from now on I'm going to feed until they actually look done and then maybe flush for a week. I just hope the 2 vertical plants will actually bulk up and grow some bud with more time (like I said they haven't done anything except yellow in at least 3 weeks and they've only been starved the last 11 days)