Yea, don't use any type of fertilizer until abou 2-3 weeks in, or when the seedlings are about to convert to vegetative growth. The lights should be positioned in a place where the plants don't stretch at all and usually have their first real leaves by about a inch or two in growth. Any sort of stretching (over 4 inches) and I would discard and start over or lower the lights immediately. It's far better to have your lights closer and risk burning than too far and have weak stems.

Whatever you do, just check them whenever you have a chance and react accordingly.

Wilting, browning = lights too close
Leaves drooping = Lack of Water
Stems too wobbly and long = lights too far
Yellow leaves = Nitrogen Deprovation

Follow that, and all should go well. Good luck.

thnx. well based on that info considering the cheap supplies, they seem to be ok, they had the 1st leave set 2-3 days ago, they were about 1 1/2 inch at that time. today makes day 8 of peeking there heads up. about 2- 2 1/2 inch now, 2nd set if leave are developed but small....lights are appox 1 -2 inch above the plants.....no wilting yellowing or sick sign of any kind as of now..think i just need to stop over watering and lay off the nutes for a bit. here are a few somewhat better shots to see the inner leaf set. Thnx alot smokers and tokers. sry choppy pics but u get the idea. inner leaf set developing. thats 8 days in the world. 10 days from germination and an alrial pic to get an idea of the make shift light setup

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Wel its been about 8-10 hrs since last pics were taken. they ARE growing just very slow, the inner leaf set is slow developing but the 1st "secondary stem) inbetween the "0val"l leaves is growing, about 1/4 inch from the ovals...looks like the 1st "fan" leave stems are slightly developing also.still comparing my plants to similar plants of age, mine seem way behind. ill post pics in a few days trying all the hints i was given onhere, We'll see how it goes

also i found 2 small comp fans laying around the house, i rigged em up to get some air blowwig, temps now went from 100 to 90'ish small help, but a step in the rite direction

thnx for the reply Gwarrior, 1 question about the lighting.... i have the lights about 2 inch or so from the plants, if i hold the light over my wrist. appox 1/4 to 1/2 inch, they dont seem hot eenought to burn. unlike tube flouros that r cool to the touch, these cfl's , if i actually hold or touch the bulb, its rather hot. Basically what im asking " how close to TOO close? thnx every on for all the info, u guys have been a great help

i noticed that you don't have any kind of reflector for your lights. if you invest in making/buying one, your garden's efficiency will increase by up to 33%

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your abosolutly rite i dont, i had a makeshift reflector make from a thick cardboard box lined with foil, got BAKING HOT so i did away with that but....i saw a thread on here about making cfl reflectors from soda cans or canned goods cans, think ill give that a try, also for my cooling...im useing the top 3feet of a old closet. Think im gonna use the "hot air rises, cold air drops" theory to my advantage, im gonna move the setup to the floor. should dramatically help the cool, once i make the reflectors and move to the floor, ill post a few pics, also CORRECTION they have been out of the soil for 5-6 days, with so much constant checking, every 2 hrs or so, guess i lost track of time, so for 5-6 days, they seem to be ok. ill keep u all posted, thnx alot ev1

You detected noticeable growth in 8 hrs?! Guy, no offense, but you're obsessing too much over your plants. Stop hovering over them and give Mother Nature a chance to do her thing. You know the sayings?, A watched pot never boils! (do not, however, boil your pot!) I only check (and give a little water) every other day at this point. I actually have, in the past, started a half dozen babies in dixie cups placed in a ring around the base of a lamp with one "daylight" cfl in the socket, nothing else(except soil, of course). Sometimes less is more. Well, Good Luck! , and try to relax a little!