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Old 10-15-2007, 05:22 PM
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First hello.

Second Ive been searching around here for the short time I have been a member just gathering some information. While I have most of what I need to do my first grow and see how that works I do have one question I looked around for. Either no one has asked it or I just haven’t been able to find it.

How well off will a plant be if it is a clone of a clone?

To clear it up for those who might be confused Im wondering if it is ok if I go to a plant that is good but wasn’t born from a seed but was grown as a clone. If I take a clipping from that clone and make another clone would that be ok?

Im wondering because I have read about cloning in general, mostly animals, and from what I have learned the more you clone the more you loose. The clones begin to get weaker and weaker so it is best to make clones from the original source so I was wondering if this also applies to these plants?

If you can make a clone of a clone how many times can it be done before the genetic makeup becomes weak and produces a plant that will die or just not be worth it?

Thanks for any help on the matter.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:49 PM
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First hello.

Second Ive been searching around here for the short time I have been a member just gathering some information. While I have most of what I need to do my first grow and see how that works I do have one question I looked around for. Either no one has asked it or I just haven’t been able to find it.

How well off will a plant be if it is a clone of a clone?

To clear it up for those who might be confused Im wondering if it is ok if I go to a plant that is good but wasn’t born from a seed but was grown as a clone. If I take a clipping from that clone and make another clone would that be ok?

Im wondering because I have read about cloning in general, mostly animals, and from what I have learned the more you clone the more you loose. The clones begin to get weaker and weaker so it is best to make clones from the original source so I was wondering if this also applies to these plants?

If you can make a clone of a clone how many times can it be done before the genetic makeup becomes weak and produces a plant that will die or just not be worth it?

Thanks for any help on the matter.
You can clone a clone many times over. Just make sure the mother plant your are cloning from is female. I am on my 6th sets of clone from the seeds I grew last year.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:26 PM
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Thanks for the info. Hopefully Ill get to growing soon and have some good news about my experience.
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Many (most?) plant species "clone". Carefully cut soft tissue and it will root under the right circumstances. Unlike humans. You can't cut off an arm and get it to grow another person.

Do you know what one earthworm said to the other earthworm?

"Humans are stupid! Cut them in half and they just die."

Most potted flower plants and potted vegitabls plants are clones. There are some good videos of cloning and grafting cannabis and tomatoes on YouTube. See for youself.
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machinecode - I started an interesting thread that has some posts contra to the info here...
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different strains have more cloneability over the long term. usually after about 2 years I have noticed you do get some genetic drift and plants tend to not be as strong. tho one strain i know of has been cloned for 5+ years and is still strong as ever. so yes and no. i would say a good method would be to start from new seed every 18 months.

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clones are important to cannabis breeders that keep mothers and farthers alive for years the origanal seed company that was the 1st cannbis seed bank in europe now know as sensi seeds have cuttings from plants that go back to the 1960's with out clones you we would lose strains.

i.e you need the same mother and father plant to make skunk #1 if you grow the seed from thouse 2 plants = skunk #1 although the origanl plants are not skunk they are somthing else the offspring are know as skunk 1#. now if you grow the skunk #1 seeds and they have children (seeds) and you breed them they will be somthing else F2 seeds/plants that will look differant to the original skunk 1# they will show more variation in the plants being grown from F2 seeds than the skunk#1 F1 genoration. the F2 seeds will throw out plants that will look like the grand parents and skunk#1 and a mix of everything inbetween.

if you cross F1 X F1 skunk#1 then you do not get skunk #1 seeds you get skunk#1 x skunk#1 but its not original skunk#1 because the to original plants to make the skunk 1# F1 seeds come from 2 different plants only thouse 2 plants can make skunk #1. so if clones were not kept growing then skunk #1 would be long dead.

anyway you can keep growing cutting from cuttings indefinitely.
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First hello.

Second Ive been searching around here for the short time I have been a member just gathering some information. While I have most of what I need to do my first grow and see how that works I do have one question I looked around for. Either no one has asked it or I just haven’t been able to find it.

How well off will a plant be if it is a clone of a clone?

To clear it up for those who might be confused Im wondering if it is ok if I go to a plant that is good but wasn’t born from a seed but was grown as a clone. If I take a clipping from that clone and make another clone would that be ok?

Im wondering because I have read about cloning in general, mostly animals, and from what I have learned the more you clone the more you loose. The clones begin to get weaker and weaker so it is best to make clones from the original source so I was wondering if this also applies to these plants?

If you can make a clone of a clone how many times can it be done before the genetic makeup becomes weak and produces a plant that will die or just not be worth it?

Thanks for any help on the matter.
19th cycle of clone of clone and alls well here.
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clones are important to cannabis breeders that keep mothers and farthers alive for years the origanal seed company that was the 1st cannbis seed bank in europe now know as sensi seeds have cuttings from plants that go back to the 1960's with out clones you we would lose strains.

i.e you need the same mother and father plant to make skunk #1 if you grow the seed from thouse 2 plants = skunk #1 although the origanl plants are not skunk they are somthing else the offspring are know as skunk 1#. now if you grow the skunk #1 seeds and they have children (seeds) and you breed them they will be somthing else F2 seeds/plants that will look differant to the original skunk 1# they will show more variation in the plants being grown from F2 seeds than the skunk#1 F1 genoration. the F2 seeds will throw out plants that will look like the grand parents and skunk#1 and a mix of everything inbetween.

if you cross F1 X F1 skunk#1 then you do not get skunk #1 seeds you get skunk#1 x skunk#1 but its not original skunk#1 because the to original plants to make the skunk 1# F1 seeds come from 2 different plants only thouse 2 plants can make skunk #1. so if clones were not kept growing then skunk #1 would be long dead.

anyway you can keep growing cutting from cuttings indefinitely.
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19th cycle of clone of clone and alls well here.
how many times have you replaced the mother with one of her clone's?
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