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Old 11-30-2009, 05:01 PM
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Default Can someone recommend a good root stimulator?
Hi everyone. I'm on my first grow and I'm ready to start pulling clones. Just got Fluoro tubes & fixture today.

I haven't done any research on a root stimulator to dip the clippings in yet. Can someone recommend one that they've used and gotten good results from?

I think they're called root stimulators but not 100% sure. It basically increases your chances of success & helps the clippings root faster.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:14 PM
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Hi everyone. I'm on my first grow and I'm ready to start pulling clones. Just got Fluoro tubes & fixture today.

I haven't done any research on a root stimulator to dip the clippings in yet. Can someone recommend one that they've used and gotten good results from?

I think they're called root stimulators but not 100% sure. It basically increases your chances of success & helps the clippings root faster.

Nevermind everyone. What I was looking for is Rooting Hormones and Green Light brand was recommended by the horticulturist at my local nursery, in case anyone was waiting to see an answer. She said I should have over a 90% success rate and have rooted clones in a week. We'll see if it works that well.

Don't use Root Stimulators unless you're transplanting and need nutes. Stimulators have nutes and they have less butyric acid which is the only active ingredient in the Rooting Hormones.

Saying that Root Stimulator is only usefull when transplanting isn't my opinion (I've never used Stimulator), it's the horticulturists opinion. So if you disagree with her, please don't jump on me. I'm just relaying what I was told.

Something else she said that I'm sure some will disagree with is that I should use clippings with 5 nodes, trim 3 and put those 3 in the dirt after dipping in Rooting Hormones. I'm sure you can clone from a clipping with 1 node, but in my opinion from what I've learned, 5 nodes should give a much better success rate, and the new plants will probably be ready to give me clones a lot faster.
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I have never used soil but you can build a $60-80 cloner very easily and get 100% success rate every time then transfer it to soil. I used a Rubbermaid Roughneck container with locking handles (the only container I have ever found to not leak!), some ez cloner replacement spray heads, a couple feet of pvc and some fittings, an air pump with air stone and a 396gph water pump. It runs 7/24 and keeps my water temp comfortable. I have used Arrowhead SPRING water (not drinking water) and that seems to root fastest. I then started using RO water (super cheap and conveniently in my house at all times) and that still has 100% success, even on dinky little cuts that I just stick in there and say "what the heck let's see if it grows". Now I'm testing 100-200ppm cal mag, hopefully it will root about as quick as the Arrowhead. Took me like an hour to build, theres probably lots of DIY ez cloners on this site so check it out. Most of my clones are tops because they grow so fast and they have about 3 nodes and 3 major fan leaves. I chop off the bottom node from that and dip in Clonex for 10 sec and a week or two later they have 6-12" roots, every time. Still on my first grow but things are well. Good luck!
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google cloning gel.
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build this. It cost 10 for the oil change thing 15 for the air pump and air stone. I had the clay pellets so no cost there. Works great.
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I have never used soil but you can build a $60-80 cloner very easily and get 100% success rate every time then transfer it to soil. I used a Rubbermaid Roughneck container with locking handles (the only container I have ever found to not leak!), some ez cloner replacement spray heads, a couple feet of pvc and some fittings, an air pump with air stone and a 396gph water pump. It runs 7/24 and keeps my water temp comfortable. I have used Arrowhead SPRING water (not drinking water) and that seems to root fastest. I then started using RO water (super cheap and conveniently in my house at all times) and that still has 100% success, even on dinky little cuts that I just stick in there and say "what the heck let's see if it grows". Now I'm testing 100-200ppm cal mag, hopefully it will root about as quick as the Arrowhead. Took me like an hour to build, theres probably lots of DIY ez cloners on this site so check it out. Most of my clones are tops because they grow so fast and they have about 3 nodes and 3 major fan leaves. I chop off the bottom node from that and dip in Clonex for 10 sec and a week or two later they have 6-12" roots, every time. Still on my first grow but things are well. Good luck!
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build this. It cost 10 for the oil change thing 15 for the air pump and air stone. I had the clay pellets so no cost there. Works great.

Thanks, but I'm a lot more comfortable in dirt. 4 of my 8 clones came in cubes and I'm having the hardest time figuring out if the cubes are wet or dry since they dry slower than the dirt does.

Even though I'll be selling all but 8 of the clones I make from these 8 plants for next rotation, I still want to get good at cloning in dirt. After my 2nd harvest I'm buying seeds and getting serious.

I've been using store brand distilled water. It's been working pretty good so far on the clones I bought, and the PH is always 7 which fits well with the FFOF soil I bought which has a PH of 6. That's only .5 off of the optimum 12.5 level.

Also I need to conserve money or I'm going to have to put them into flower after only 4 weeks of veg., and I'd really hate to do that, that's like throwing away money. So I'm going to use larger clear disposable cups (the kind you get beer in at fairs, concerts, and October fests. And for the domes I'll be using the top halves of Pepsi 2-litre bottles. I know it's ghetto, but money's tight right now and I need to conserve where ever I can.

No cloning tonight though. The $60, 4' , 4 bulb fixture I bought which advertised that it came with a whip has no plug at the end of the whip, and the hardware stores closed already. Plus I need to figure out how to hang it since it didn't come with any kind of a hanging bracket.

Thanks for trying to help, but I'm doing that once step back two steps forward "cha cha cha" right now. lol

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Thanks, but I already bought the Rooting Hormone powder.
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Thanks, but I already bought the Rooting Hormone powder.
green light powder works good it always makes ure root stick out
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green light powder works good it always makes ure root stick out

lol, thanks man, I needed a good laugh right now. I just ripped the lens off the fixture because it gave me problems when I tried to remove it. I think I'll wait till tommorow to FIM my girls. lol

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dont use the clear cups or the 2 litter bottles. The roots hate light and will suffer light pruning. Use the red cups if you have to. or paint them black.
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