Hi, I have a general idea on growing by reading up on some threads but I think I need to start a thread of my own to get some specific help in order to start my own grow room. I'm planning on starting in about 6 months because I don't have enough knowledge or funds to start my own at the moment. I'm saving up to buy some materials so my first questions are: What materials do I need to start? And How much will it cost? I know some things I need already which I will list them along with a picture of my layout of the grow room but could you please list what else I need and the cost of everything? And could you look at my grow room and tell me if it will work out? Such as light efficiency and such.



This is my layout, will it work? I got the idea from Al B. Fuct's post about his SoG method using ebb and flow. And I'll also be using his method exactly the same but tweaked it a little to give me a little over a pound every 2 weeks. The veggie/cone is in one grow tent and flowers in another bigger grow tent.

Materials:
Flood Tray x6
Reservoir x6
400W MH
Florescent Light x?
1000W HPS x4
Ballasts to go with MH/HPS Lights x5
Odor Filter (what kind?)
Vent In x2 (what kind?)
Vent Out x2 (what kind?)
Dehumidfier x2 (what kind?)
AC x2 (what kind?)
Grow Tent (1 small for veggie/cone, 1 large for flower)
Fan x>2
Nutes (what kind?)

What else do I need?? Please list everything (even small items like scissors) and their price range.

How much do you think I'll need? I went over few sites and I think I need about $5000-7000. How much did it cost you initially?

Thank you!

Daniism

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looks like a good setup man.. i would suggest using a couple of t5 fluro tubes for the veg/clone area.. these work great for this and don't put out much heat... they ran me about a hundred and fifty for the two footer with the four bulbs, along with an extra set of bloom bulbs thrown in for good measure..
a good source for lights and all is htgsupply, great service and cheap prices...
i agree with the above poster though... just start going through as many hydro sites as you can and look for the best prices that you can, make a list of everything that you want, with the costs of everything so you have a good idea of what you need ..... sometimes a hydro store will give you a nice price break if you order a shit ton of stuff from them all at once from what i have heard around here.
good luck with your grow.. i would also suggest looking up some peoples hydro grow journals on here and see what they are using to get an idea.. i know that roseman is the man to see about bubbleponics, not sure about what you want to grow with though, although i think that would be a good place to start..

What size trays are you planning on 3x3 or 4x4? With the closeness of the plants, you will have stretching, and a lot. I have basically the same set up using a form of dwc, and have found that moving the plants in the second half of the flowering period is next to impossible, and is impractical. The roots alone are more than you want to deal with, and with as close as i have them, and it looks like you are going to have them, the roots tangle together and are very difficult to pull apart even after a few weeks of being together. Light may not be suffcient either, i have a 1000 per 4x4 tray, and in later flowering the edges (of the tray) start to get quite shaded. I use only Dutch Master nutes, but that is all opinion, go look at a good grow store and see the selection, someone buys everyone of them. I do have ideas on how to make this work very well, but don't forget you must always be able to access the pump (in each tub), and i did not see that in your plans. You are looking at lots and lots of money, most of us build this up over time and experience. Therefore i haven't the foggest of what your looking at, but remember that greed above all is what will get you caught, and the more plants you grow at once the more fallout you will invariably have. O yeah, you will also def need an RO system, and a reservoir. You can find good links to cheap ones on here.

props for choosin Al b fuct as a role model, he is top dog.
those pictures are nice... but first you will wanna find the right mothers for your mother room, r u gonna get clones? or grow out a bunch of seed and pick your favorite?
u should be growin something right now if you are really serious, how u gonna get this $5000 to start w/? pipe dream! r u lookin for reasons not to start now?
grow something right now, thats an order!...
and maybe one day, u will rule, and be able to talk some funny mad smack!

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waass a matta? a little tense bout the flight?[SIGPIC]

Yep google is my friend, my friend.

So the t5 fluro tubes are enough light for both mothers and clones?

I think I'll buy them from an actual store, just so I can buy them in cash.. I don't want to buy stuff with cc just because I don't want any trails.. just a precaution..

I think it's 3'x3'.. is that too small? About the roots being tangled.. that seems like a big problem.. How do you solve it? Should I just move the whole tray instead of individual pots?

And you said you need 1000W of light per tray which I thought I need too reading up on bunch of stuff on light per squarefootage.. but I got the above idea from Al B. Fuct, and he has the layout just like above pic and he only has 1 light per two trays in the flower room.. and it seems to work for him.. I read he prunes the bottom 1/3 of his plants twice in the flowering period.. perhaps that's why? I don't know.. now I'm confused as to whether I have enough light..

There will be a 2' area between the two column of trays for accessing all the plants / res / pumps etc...

I'm saving up working close to 70 hours a week at two jobs to make enough to start this op. You said I need a lot and lot of money.. How much do you think? Is my estimate of $5-7K close? Do you think it'll be more? Because I actually have to save up more than $7k so I can have enough for atleast 3~4 months of rent + bills..

The reservoir will be under each of the trays but whats an RO system?

Yea Al B. Fuct seemed like he knew what he was talking about.. I hope he stumbles on my post and sees this and give me some pointers..

I'm going to buy some seeds at a seed bank (actual store) and going to germinate, plant it, determine sex.. the whole deal.. and then get 8 to 10 mothers to start this.

I was actually thinking I should grow something right now.. I heard somewhere that if you can grow tomatoes you can grow anything.. so I'm going to get the feel of growing by learning to grow tomatoes.

I am just a broke ass student just wanting to pay my tuition + living expenses like rent + bills + food while I go to school, I'm taking a year off school to save up money working 70+ hours a week to start this so I can not fail... and yes I am pretty serious.. I learned a little but not even close to start this yet. Although I won't have the field experience, I'm using this time to learn as much as I can.

Hiya fella, not being funny but as you said this is your first grow and all but this setup you looking at seems a bit ott for your first shot why not just get a 400w wide spec sodium and grow some seeds out 2 get the hang of it all and sharpen your craft a bit before you drop all that cash on your big system? you be amazed at the yeild and quality you can get from 5 plants and £200 worth og grow gear. and you learning at same time. Tho your plan is good its a lot work!!! never underestimate how much work getting stoned can be!, good look mate!.