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Old 11-03-2009, 07:59 PM
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Default Gonna Start My First Indoor Grow-Need Info
Hey Y'all,

I am not new to growing but was forced to do it guerilla style outdoors for many years. I'm at the point now of saying "fuck that shit!"

Crawling down a steep muddy slippery hill at 2:00am 1-2 times a week is getting to me. So is monitoring weather, bug infestation, hiding from neighbors and an occasional deer munch. There's got to be an easier way!

So here's what I'm thinking. I got a very small closet in the basement (5'x2') but all I want is perhaps 3 females. I will buy fem seeds to make it worth my while.

The closet is painted flat white, but there is no means for exhaust. I would literally have to blow a fan into the closet. No one uses that bedroom so I could easily keep the door closed 24-7. It is dark and cool.

What do I need? I'm thinking a 400W MH/HPS combo. MH for veg, HPS for flowering. Right? I also considered CFL's but in the past fluorescents grew weak spindly plants.

So I need a light with ballast and reflector, organic soil (hydroponics intimidate me), a fan, a light timer and thermo/humidity gauge. Would that be it?

If so, what seed choices works best in this scenario? I need to stay away from the skunky shit to avoid detection. I yanked an outdoor plant 6 weeks ago and when I hung it in this closet, ALL 3 floors of my house smelled skunky! My wife was having a shit fit.

Also, I may take this idea into my huge attic if the wife doesn't agree to the basement closet.

Last question-will a 400W bulb show a huge change in my electric bill?

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Sounds pretty good, to that I would only add a PH tester, if you're going to use nutes that color the water you'll want a PH pen, instead of the chemical tester. May be other stuff but I'm kinda sleepy. lol
A single 400w won't put much on your bill - depending on how much you pay per kilawatt, it should only be around maybe $25 a month on the high end.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:52 PM
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Sounds pretty good, to that I would only add a PH tester, if you're going to use nutes that color the water you'll want a PH pen, instead of the chemical tester. May be other stuff but I'm kinda sleepy. lol
A single 400w won't put much on your bill - depending on how much you pay per kilawatt, it should only be around maybe $25 a month on the high end.
Thank you! I'm glad I got some input! The whole pH thing is foreign to me since I usually just plant in the ground with pre-prepared soil.

I also hope the 400W system will produce 3 thick budded females. Here's what I'm eyeballing: http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct...roductID=51374

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Thank you! I'm glad I got some input! The whole pH thing is foreign to me since I usually just plant in the ground with pre-prepared soil.

I also hope the 400W system will produce 3 thick budded females. Here's what I'm eyeballing: http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct...roductID=51374

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I have a similar setup as I have a basement space that nobody goes near.
I have a 400w hanging light, an air conditioner timer, and a couple of normal fans.
I have the light long-wise along the ceiling, and i put four plants in at a time-
two plants are on each of the short sides of the closet, and i grow them along wires strung the whole length.
I use very small pots- 2 gallons size, and as the plants get longer, I just twist them along the wires.
I have the lights so that they go on at night, when the ambient air is cooler, and i just open the closet at night and close (and lock it) in the morning. The fan or two run at low speed.
I grow lanky sativas, in soil I mix-- 1/4 perlite, 1/4 vermiculite, 1/4 peat moss, 1/4 compost, to which I add lime (with it, I have never had to think about Ph), blood meal, bone meal, worm castings, and bat guano.
I add a very weak feeding of Big Bud about every 3 weeks, and at the same time I give them a little molasses mixed with epsom salts.
I love my "espalier" plants- its the way they grow grapes!
I always have four plants vegging, and a dozen clones rooting in a shoe box in another closet under a flourescent.
With a jar curing, a jar drying... its the perfect mini set up for an effective organic grow that meets the needs of two medical users, and anyone else that I love.
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That system is kind of a rip off because its just this light, and a lot of stuff you can get for free or much less.
http://www.htgsupply.com/growlights....=155&typeID=55
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If your closet is right next to the bathroom and the bathroom has a vent you can vent out from here. Tapping in is usually extremely easy in a basement. Be careful with an attic grow take action to avoid detection from LE as attic grows are very vulnerable to helicopters if used in your area. 1 400watt light is no big deal if asked you put in heated tile in the bath. (they wont) unless you live in a 2 bedroom apartment, but for a house that's just a new appliance.
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my electic bill is about 18USD more a month with a 400w digital ballast with an MH in it
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my electic bill is about 18USD more a month with a 400w digital ballast with an MH in it
WOW!! Thanks everyone for the great ideas-a lot of thought went into them

I liked how you mentioned the attic risk too, and the mixture for good soil. I may just do away with that aforementioned kit, because I can get all the other stuff cheaper.

The bedroom is not close to the bathroom, so an exhaust set up is not possible. BUt I do have outlets right outside the closet, so that's one good thing.

Now, as far as ordering a light system, there are no hydro or light stores around. I will have to buy through the internet. I saw a lot of good deals in that one thread, but does anyone want to leave me a referral? Also, when the light is delivered, should I have it shipped to someone else's address (to avoid being watched?)

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Old 11-04-2009, 09:09 AM
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Ok guys, now I'm hunting down a lighting system that will allow me to convert from MH to veg, to HPS to flower, right? Tell me what you think of this: http://www.amazon.com/Watt-Electroni.../dp/B002J7PYSU
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I veg in a separate cupboard with flourescents and just use the HPS for flowering.
 

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