Ok here we go, this is my very first grow (with mistakes and no planning or reading ahead of time) I started off with some old bad seed I had (mistake 2) and planted them in a bin I keep filled with miracle grow organic choice garden soil that I use for yard work (mistake 3). I started out 16 bag seeds and thought only a few would sprout as I didn't germinate them and they were real old, but a week later they ALL sprouted. That's when I found this great site and started reading into growing and decided to give it a shot, so off to lowe's to get supplies for my set up (mistake 4) heres a list

2 three socket vanity kits
3 26w daylight 6500k CFL's
3 26w soft white 3200k CFL's
20 ft ext cord

here's a few pic's

all 16 at week 2


my set up




At week 2 I picked out the 4 best looking ones and killed the rest I thought the spacing would be ok (mistake 5)

here's a pic of the final 4 at week 3



My problem is this, at 1 month old there only 6'' tall and 10'' wide so my spacing is way off, to combat this I started cutting off fan leafs once the leaf got 4'' long (not sure if this was a mistake or not).
what should I do about the spacing? should I kill a few off 2 maybe 3? should I start to flower them wait for sex then kill the males? or just scrap the whole grow and start from scratch the right way?

here's a few more pic's

week 3



1 month







Any info or suggestions would be great, thanks in advance for all your help

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i'm gonna bump this up.

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They actually look really good - I dunno much about CFLs and soil growing so I don't really have any good advice ...

I myself would transplant them into different pots.. keep going with what you got going because it seems to be working.

If you get some males rip em out - otherwise for a slap together job they look like pretty healthy plants.

You have got to put them all in different pots. Is Miracle grow your only option? What kind of nutes are you using?

or bend em over and train em around the pot?

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yeah bend them over around the pot so it uses more space, your roots are probably tangled like hell. cant separate them now. overall their looking great so far.

You might also wanna get more and stronger bulbs 42 watts. good luck PEACE
PS Oh yeah and get the v plugs so you can put twice as much! this oughta be sweet.

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I love em but what do I know. The plants look very healthy and the node spacing is tight. IMO it was a mistake to trim the fan leaves. The growth is also a little slow but this thread has me thinking. Lets see how a few others reply, I wonder if their roots have begun to tangle. Maybe there is still hope of transplanting.

I agree with everyone else, you should have started them in separate containers. like peat pots or something. But other then that lst them the best you can and enjoy the smoke afterwards eh

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I really appreciate all the input guys thanks so much
ok so I dug down a few inch's in the middle to see if I could see any roots from what I saw they look too tangled to repot, so I decided to go with the LST that was recommended, the only experience I have with LST is what I've read on this site I hope I dont stress them too much wish me luck, and from now on no more cutting of the fan leafs.

As far as getting more CFL's I really dont think I'll do that, my plan is to get this setup High Tech Garden Supply with my next check, I'll use the CFL setup for clones

And as far as nutes go I just started using some a few days ago nothing special just some MG with an NPK of 30-10-10 at a 1/4 strength

Here's a few pics of my LST attempt
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