Hey thanks for the input. I can't really mess up the walls. I could get a replacement door and rig it up. As for the smell. I really didn't think that would be to big an issue. I have an air purifier and I live alone. I guess if the people come to change the filters though and smell it then that would be a big issue. They will be coming this week and I will have to move the plants to my room. After that they won't be back for 3 months. I will try to figure out a wooden frame structure to build. It will need a door though. And if I did that then the t8 lighting I was going to rig up will need to go in there.

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Yeah, that door thing is I believe what I was saying.

I like this idea a lot that way you vent into the cloest itself and leave the door somewhat open but with the plants and lights inside their own smaller box no one would ever know anything was going on. 4x8 sheets of OSB board are about 5 bucks, but you'd probably need some framing boards for support. Judging by your CFL fixture though you atleast have a saw of some type?
Also PVC pipe can be used to make a cheap frame that is easily movable and then you just wrap that in mylar or whatever your choice is. Also don't worry about getting bigger 6500Ks for now as you have to place them further away from the plants which causes you to loose some efficancy in the bulbs.

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Ok.... So here's the deal. I have a closet in my bedroom that the people will never go in. It is 6 foot deep and 8 foot wide and like 9 feet high. I would have used that but me and my girlfriends clothes are in there and I didn't want to mess them up. I could build a grow box to put in there. If I do that there is a lot more room to do stuff in and to air out. I also will have about the same heat and temp problems if I build a box similar to my closet. But on the plus side I can do whatever I want to it so I can fix the problem. I also won't have to worry about light leaks or cords showing. I will however have to build this and I will have to move the plants to that room. I have room now for 3 plants. That is what I want to stay with so that later I can have 3 diff strains. I can take back the 20 dollar fan I have now and buy smaller computer fans. This has been a freaking epiphany. Ok, so I have a lot of work too do but I need some help. What equipment do I need that I don't have and where to get it? (computer fans etc.) The osb board and fans I know. does anyone know where to get good priced fans. I am thinking i can build another light fixture and hang it from the top of the box with the chain i already have. How tall should the box be? Safe dimensions? where should the fans be placed for optimum potential. Will the heat warp the wood? and I may want to try hps some day so it will need to handle that as well or should that be another box completely. I want to stay low in cost too because i spent a lot on this already. this is critical.... I need this going soon because it is almost time for transplant. Keep it coming.

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I'll post what I'm thinking later, bit to busy right now. I think you would get more assistance with this though if you made a new thread in the grow room section.

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Thanks for the post aqua. I will definitely be needing some advice and help putting that together. I probably will be posting a new thread for that but if you have any advice I will try to hear yours first then post. So do you think that is a better idea. My girlfriend gave me the ok to do that as long as it doesn't take up her side. But like I said its pretty big. I may want to make it tall enough to have a clone/seedling area. Maybe not though. Because I might use a box in the old closet for that. I have 3 gallon pots because I read a book that said you need that size to hold a good size plant. And I have 3 of those. I would like to grow 2 to 3 plants so I can have a few different kinds. I also just got some free seeds from the net and I want to try cloning so when they come in I can clone them. What is the best thing to put the clones in.

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Thanks, but I would go ahead and post the new thread. The more ideas the better. Anyway heres a rough idea using the max dimension you gave us. Really though it makes a box far to large for just 3 plants and would also probably be hard to construct in the closet, but at least gives you a slight idea of what could be done or something to work on scaling down. (Also wasn't sure where your door is so just put it in the most convenient place haha)



Also keep in mind those exhaust vents are using ducting all on the outside. I did that simply so you could keep the closet door somewhat open and not have light leaks as the only actual open place 24/7 to the box would be in the back and with ducting painted black (inside) light hopefully wouldn't do much escaping. Lights I would simply mount as you already have, and just screw in two hooks in the top to attach the chain to and then to lower and raise it just adjust what link is in the hook. Fan wise, for a space that size the only computer fans that would really do what you need would be something like a Tornado, or a Delta but theres ways to mount desk fans in the ducting with a little bit of work. (Keep in mind also that exhaust air ducting would go all the way to the front edge of the box to minimize recycling the hot air, and that intake is simply to add air circulation to the room (Nice thick stems) and probably should be removed from the design.

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Would this setup be my whole closet or is it a box inside my closet. If it would take up my whole closet my girlfriend would definitely not ok that. I mean if it was just me I would sleep in the living room and convert my whole dang room into a grow palace but with her I can only do so much. I was looking at other grow boxes and thinking of building something that looks like your box. Except a lot smaller. I would love to have a veggin and cloning chamber but to save space I might make a really little box and put it at the bottom of my other closet for cloning or maybe on the side of my grow box. I was thinking of something that would be about 3.5 feet wide and maybe 15 or 16 inches deep and 6 or 7 feet tall. I don't know how tall plants get though so I don't really know how tall it would need to be. I don't plan on vegging very long either. I want to get good plants quick. I will put a door or double doors on it. I want to eventually use hps or mh if I ever find out how that effects the light bill. So I will need to start off with holes big enough for regular fans and then really good fans for the more heat. I will probably be starting a new thread for that though. Also real quick. One of my plants has started to have yellow tipped leaves. It only has one set and another trying to come in. I haven't made it to the local hydro store to get a pH tester yet so it could be from improper pH water. Or over watering under watering. I just transplanted also.

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That box was full dimensions, but like I said is far to big for the amount your trying to grow and should be scaled down(Properly lighting something that size would require around 1000watt HID, but could be done with a 600). Just was giving a rough idea of how to distribute space but if you did scale down obviously you could loose stuff like that storage area. About as small as you could go would be something like a rubbermaid container sectioned into 3 (So roots don't mix)to use as the pot(since it wouldn't be using circulare pots you don't loose space in the gaps) and then just build a small 2.5 foot enclosure over that. Basically all you need is design a box that encompasses the size of the pot, then 3x the planned height of plant when it switches from veg to flowering. CFLs won't require much extra space and plant won't more then triple from veg to flower, so much beyond that would be extra convenience room. Since it's your first box and your using CFLs, I probably wouldn't design much with an HID in mind as that would raise the roof space at least 2 feet, unless your positive you'll be doing this again. As for the tips, are you feeding them nutes, and are the tips pointed up or down?

Also wouldn't hurt to just look on craigslist and look for an old free dresser or filling cabinet and modify that to your needs. Would save some work and money

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Thanks aqua. That's a great idea to look on craigslist. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, that would save me a ton of time and energy and money. And that way I could use all cfls and save my money to build a hid system later. It would give me more flexible time to work on it. As for the nutes... I just transplanted yesterday so I haven't used any nutes. To be honest with you I don't even know what kind of nutes I am supposed to use. I wasn't going to use any until I heard some guy going on and on about them yesterday. But I still have no idea what to use. I thought my soil had it in there. It says it feeds for 3 months. I heard about this blooming stuff thats great. The leaves are pointed upwards. And it hasn't effected growing yet because there second set of leaves are fanning out now. Also, the rubber made idea was good too. I am losing a lot of space with the round pots. I will definitely check those out. What about holes for drainage though. Do I need drainage at the bottom of the pot. And when I transplant those should I dig up the transplant or take the whole pot out. How big of a rubbermaid should I use?

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