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    Hey Everyone, so i trolled around for an hour this morning and about 2 hours last night looking for the answer to 2 questions, and i couldnt find an exact answer, or at least one that satisfies me.(ive lurked in the shadows here for about a year, to affraid to speak up lol)

    1. Everyone talks about nutrients and what not, when actually PURCHASING them does one need to buy EVERYTHING listed in there charts such as http://www.advancednutrients.com/nutcalc3public/
    or would the micro/grow/bloom be enough on there own?

    2. Can i purpetually clone the clones of clones of clones of clones? ive seen a couple topics but none seem to hit this on the head(that i could find)
    what im more specificly curious about is if one could have 2 hydroponic systems, one specializing in veg and one in bloom(and a diycloner), and both using the same tubs with net pots so all you have to do is switch the lids when its time to flower.
    The idea is that before each batch is switched over to a flowering stage i clone each plant, root it, and start veging it in the newly empty veg system
    *there guaranteed to be feminized because the first batch im going to start out with a "mother" which is going to just be one plant basically so i have a good begining to clones


    (in before= just keep a mother, assume there is no room for a seperate mother to be kept and finances dont really allow it)

    Thanks you all for your years of advice and help
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    1. The first glow,bloom,micro are juuust fine!
    2. Cloning clones is fine, as long as you take care of your ding dang plants. if you are weary that it MAY degrade the quality, start with a new plant/strain after a while.
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    You could do it up to about 4 or 5 times, and then you'll usually start to get a degredation of quality, and a genetic drift. I won't really be the same plant anymore.

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    DO NOT listen to that guy^^^^

    YOu ccan clone a clone , clone that clone.. w/e does not matter .. i have been doin it for over a yr with no illeffets.. so w/e the hell he is talking about is not true....

    ya .. just get veg nuts and flower nuts

    now are growing RIGHT NOW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doitinthewoods View Post
    You could do it up to about 4 or 5 times, and then you'll usually start to get a degredation of quality, and a genetic drift. I won't really be the same plant anymore.
    ok so 4-5 times, that sounds completely reasonable, it would also allow me to completely clean out the system, modify it, update it, and i could start new strains as well... rite?
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    tisk tisk tisk .. the blind leading the blind..

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    Quote Originally Posted by skunkman98536 View Post
    tisk tisk tisk .. the blind leading the blind..
    Right, so actually look it up. You may not notice, but it's happening. Do it long enough and you'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skunkman98536 View Post
    DO NOT listen to that guy^^^^

    YOu ccan clone a clone , clone that clone.. w/e does not matter .. i have been doin it for over a yr with no illeffets.. so w/e the hell he is talking about is not true....

    ya .. just get veg nuts and flower nuts

    now are growing RIGHT NOW?
    eek! this is the confusion, thats throwing me through a loop, ive read in the forums that clones do degrade in genetic quality, the specific forrum was a little unclear and i felt it was wierded odd(at least for a noobie) which is why i asked the question. So i could clone the clones of clones"forever"and the plant would be as good as the first seed i cloned from?

    (not blind, just lost my glass's)
    Thank you for your help in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freak0Nature View Post
    eek! this is the confusion, thats throwing me through a loop, ive read in the forums that clones do degrade in genetic quality, the specific forrum was a little unclear and i felt it was wierded odd(at least for a noobie) which is why i asked the question. So i could clone the clones of clones"forever"and the plant would be as good as the first seed i cloned from?

    (not blind, just lost my glass's)
    Thank you for your help in advance
    Sure you can, but eventually you won't have the same plant. It's a fact.

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    dude trust me i noticed i still have cured stuff in a msaon jar from 4grows ago and currently i have some from the grow that just got done.. and they TASTE EXACTLY the same

    NO MATTER WHat it will continue to still carry out the same gentic code .. just b/c you take cuttings will not change that fact... it will BE THE SAME ... EVERYYTIME

    If you do not beileve me .. then .. there really is not much i can do .. but .. if u want to waste a month or two growing another mature pklant.. then go head.. time is money.. money is time .. so ..

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    BTW .. plz explain to me why the gentics would get diluted throughout the process? .. you have arroused my curiousity .. soo

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