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it basically makes the plant focus bud production on the top buds verse the buds on the bottomw that would not end up being much of anything.. the plant can focus all its attention on the important buds... you will get a few less buds because you are removing branches.. but the buds will be bigger on the remaining plant.. you can benefit from it pretty much in any situation.. unless you have weak genetics or a stain that has a tendency to hermie...
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damn thats what i been doing bro. lolipoping and i hope that it dont hermie mine
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damn thats what i been doing bro. lolipoping and i hope that it dont hermie mine
as long as you do it at the appropriate time for the amount of cutting you are doing and you strain isnt know for hermie tendencies you shouldnt have to worry about hermies to much... again some strains are more proned to hermie than others anyways... so if you arent sure about the strain you have i recommend only trying it to a couple of your plants to see how it goes first, before doing it to the entire crop... this will also allow you to see the differences in final yield...



this brings up a good things to add into the guide i didnt before... the first is staggering your harvest..

now for lack of better words i used staggering.. what i mean by that is harvesting the plants tops and then harvesting the bottoms later..

the top of the plant, since it is closer to the lights, will finish faster than the bottom buds... if you choose you can harvest the top 2/3 to 3/4 of your plant and allow the bottom 1/3 to 1/4 to finish out a while longer to allow the buds to fully ripen... of course if you lollipop your plant this will not be possible since you should have cut up far enough that all the buds will finish at the same time...

also another thing you can do if you dont lollipop is to re-veg your plant... with this you harvest the top 2/3 to 3/4 and trim the main stem down to where you stop harvesting... you stick the bottom of the plant, which should still have all its foliage as you will not be harvesting this part, back into 24/0 lighting and start feeding veg nutes... after a while it will begin to grow again...

you may also choose to trim off some off some of the root mass and replant her in new soil.. this may be on of those things you only try on one of your plants to see how well it goes before doing it to them all..

dont be alarmed if the new growth is a little deformed.. it will happen... you can also take clones from her after she returns to good growth..

the yield on a revegged plant is less than the original harvest... so that is to be expected also..

you can "stagger" your harvest and re-veg if you want.. but the more live foliage you can leave on the plant if re-vegging the quicker it will start re-growing...
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Thank You, very detailed. This really helps
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now i have a few clones and there light cycle has been messed up for a few weeks now being outside in this crazy new england weather. One of the clones looks like its ready to bud already and its only like a foot tall. It has crystals hairs and everything. I just bought a 400w hps/mh setup and i was wondering what to do with the light cycle? The other clones are still veging so i was planning on putting it 18/6. Is this a bad idea?!
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now i have a few clones and there light cycle has been messed up for a few weeks now being outside in this crazy new england weather. One of the clones looks like its ready to bud already and its only like a foot tall. It has crystals hairs and everything. I just bought a 400w hps/mh setup and i was wondering what to do with the light cycle? The other clones are still veging so i was planning on putting it 18/6. Is this a bad idea?!

ok so i take it you plan on bringing them in and letting them go longer indoors?? well ill give you all the options i can think of and you can figure what plays best...

first if you took the clones from a mature plant they are already ready to start flowering and do not need to veg.. there is a chance that the plant you see that looks like it is ready to veg is showing extreme signs of preflowers.. i dont know much about how the weather is on your half to know if it is enough to induce early flowering or not.. but either way here are your options...

you can continue to let it go and do its thing.. if it has started flowering it will sort of be in limbo between now and when it actually would have started flowering.. basically somewhere between flowering and vegging.. this will stress it and can cause it to go hermie.. if you have strong genetics it may very well be possible nothing happens.. but if you have shakey genetics you may want to start flowering..

which is the other option you have.. you could set up your light and start a 12/12 cycle with that plant.. or you could just take it outdoors during the day for its light cycle and bring it indoors at night during its dark cycle.. this could get annoying and cause problems if you forget or miss timing.. so if you do start flowering it would probably be best to use the light...

with it being a 400w only, you may want to just let them do their own thing outside since the sun is a LOT more powerful than the 400w hps... you could have that set up and ready incase the weather gets flaky and you need to bring them in.. which is another option you have.. just bring them in when the weather outside is less than ideal under the hps...

now if the other clones are still vegging you'll want an 18/6 cycle.. this can cause a problem with the possibly flowering plant.. so make sure you can close the flowering plant off from the light if you do bring them in and choose to just flower the one right now..

that pretty much covers it... if you want a little bit better idea of what i would personally do i need to know whether you plan on bring them in or leaving them outside to finish and if you can post a pic or two of the possibly flowering girl...
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bumping for all the noobs ouut there. good write simpsamp, dont blame me if i dont have time to read it all, i know its full of good stuff
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bumping for all the noobs ouut there. good write simpsamp, dont blame me if i dont have time to read it all, i know its full of good stuff
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