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    Quote Originally Posted by Vtec9010 View Post
    Thanks for the info bro and fast response, had to find out how to +rep before I posted again!

    So I decided I'll go with 600w hps considering my budget. Which means I will need to set up some sort of ventilation. I'm thinking just intake/outake fans on either side of the dresser which means I would also probably have to have some sort of filter to cut down on the smell. I'm assuming that opening the dresser once a day won't be good enough? I was planning on painting the interior white to get reflection as well.

    Looked up that strain on Attitude and it looks pretty delicious.
    I was wondering if you had any experience with low ryder?? I'm just interested in it because of the low grow height.

    Thanks again, I'm sure I'll have more questions, just hope I don't get too annoying haha.
    if you put a hole in the bottom side of the dresser, and another one on the opposite side at the top with an inline fan sucking the air out that would be more than sufficient for exhaust... opening the door once a day wont help.... a 6" fan would be about what you need...

    an air cooled hood would be ideal also.. you can do the exhaust 2 ways if you get an air cooled hood.. the above is one option.. or you could run the exhaust straight through the dresser... this way the air that exhausted wont smell... since it would be pulled in from and exhausted to the outside.. if that makes sense at all....

    or you could also use an air cooled hood, have it exhaust outside.. but leave part of the hood (1 flange) open... this would be the most ideal so that it exhausts heat but also pulls "dead" air out of the dresser... i hope this makes sense.. i havent smoked anything today so im a little off...

    i've grown autos.. but not low ryder autos.. they are decent enough.. and offer good smoke.. but they arent near as strong or yield as much as regular photo strains will...

    dont be affraid to ask questions.. its fine!!


    Quote Originally Posted by showhard2handle View Post
    Great explanation. SOLD on my end. Sounds like a descent technique to practice/perfect, but not something for breakin my cherry. I'll get a few notches in my belt & then maybe give a whirl.

    I believe I have the close up thing down. Well maybe not so much down, I just took some betta close ups for ya. THings are gettin really exciting in there homey. I am absolutely ecstatic. Can barely get my hand (and I'm bout 6-4, - 250 so they big hands) and I can barely get my hand around some of the larger colas, of which there are prob. 4-5. Man I'm pumped & I thank you profusly for all ur help.

    Lemme get the pics ready to upload & I slap em up.

    Thanks brotha!
    sounds like you will have a nice harvest.. im happy for ya bro! congrats! sounds like some real monsters you got!

    Quote Originally Posted by choempi View Post
    Sam, where do you get your peroxide and how do you use it in hydro?
    its not special or anything.. just plain old brown bottle peroxide... get it at wal mart, target, the grocery, cvs/walgreens... you get the picture.. lol

    if you need to clean your system with it use about 10 to 15 ml per gallon of water.. if you need to spray it just throw it in a squirt bottle and mist well with it..

    remember this will kill all beneficial microorganisms.. at the roots and/or in organic nutes... so you willl want to use a root inocculant after using this.. or some sort of organic nute to reintroduce beneficials to the roots..

    Quote Originally Posted by choempi View Post
    Sorry forgot to ask you also about conditioning rockwool for germinating seed, do you condition it with a purposely low PHed water?

    Danger in oversatuatin?
    just soak them in a 5.5 ph'd solution... this will pretty much even the rockwool out to around 6.3ish ph...

    over saturating the cubes, or leaving them too moist, can cause root rot or stem rot.... after you soak them shake them out a few times to remove a good amount of the moisture in them.. you want them damp.. but not soaked...
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpsonsampson420 View Post
    if you put a hole in the bottom side of the dresser, and another one on the opposite side at the top with an inline fan sucking the air out that would be more than sufficient for exhaust... opening the door once a day wont help.... a 6" fan would be about what you need...

    an air cooled hood would be ideal also.. you can do the exhaust 2 ways if you get an air cooled hood.. the above is one option.. or you could run the exhaust straight through the dresser... this way the air that exhausted wont smell... since it would be pulled in from and exhausted to the outside.. if that makes sense at all....

    or you could also use an air cooled hood, have it exhaust outside.. but leave part of the hood (1 flange) open... this would be the most ideal so that it exhausts heat but also pulls "dead" air out of the dresser... i hope this makes sense.. i havent smoked anything today so im a little off...

    i've grown autos.. but not low ryder autos.. they are decent enough.. and offer good smoke.. but they arent near as strong or yield as much as regular photo strains will...

    dont be affraid to ask questions.. its fine!!
    Yeah that makes sense, I got the gist of it anyway haha. Thanks for the hospitality! One more thing I'd just like your input on is supercropping, FIM, and lollipopping,..which would you do in my case to maximize my yeild? or even a combination of them. I've read up on them on your previous posts and looked at the picture tutorials, very helpful by the way. I would reccomend looking at the picture tutorial for anyone who is a little shakey about what to do, it really helps especially if you're more of a visual learner like myself.

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    its not special or anything.. just plain old brown bottle peroxide... get it at wal mart, target, the grocery, cvs/walgreens... you get the picture.. lol

    I thought only 35%

    if you need to clean your system with it use about 10 to 15 ml per gallon of water.. if you need to spray it just throw it in a squirt bottle and mist well with it..

    remember this will kill all beneficial microorganisms.. at the roots and/or in organic nutes... so you willl want to use a root inocculant after using this.. or some sort of organic nute to reintroduce beneficials to the roots..



    just soak them in a 5.5 ph'd solution... this will pretty much even the rockwool out to around 6.3ish ph...

    over saturating the cubes, or leaving them too moist, can cause root rot or stem rot.... after you soak them shake them out a few times to remove a good amount of the moisture in them.. you want them damp.. but not soaked...[/QUOTE]

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    alright my man, say fuk & threw the 600 watt on the ol credit card & got that en route. Will be here & ready to roll for when autos finish.

    Here are some close ups.

    Not nearly as nice as I like, fukd w/ the light a little, but still couldn't get some o' the ones I really wanna post. Hopefully these can give ya better idea bout chop & what not.

    If not, lemme know, and I'm gonna stick a reg lamp in there or something w/ hps off & see what I can do. Got good camera, just need to make sure I know what i'm doin.

    Thanks my man, I hope she's a monster load.

    Again, thanks a praise to you my man, you are truly the man.



    yeah, also took a pic of a rock wool cube that is pretty indicative of my whole situation. Out o' curiousity, how long can those roots get before it starts to become an un-healthy enviro. for them? You know my timeline. Thanks man
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    if you need to clean your system with it use about 10 to 15 ml per gallon of water.. if you need to spray it just throw it in a squirt bottle and mist well with it..

    remember this will kill all beneficial microorganisms.. at the roots and/or in organic nutes... so you willl want to use a root inocculant after using this.. or some sort of organic nute to reintroduce beneficials to the roots..



    just soak them in a 5.5 ph'd solution... this will pretty much even the rockwool out to around 6.3ish ph...

    over saturating the cubes, or leaving them too moist, can cause root rot or stem rot.... after you soak them shake them out a few times to remove a good amount of the moisture in them.. you want them damp.. but not soaked...[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

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    Hey what's up simpsonsampson420, I got a quick question. I'm just confused about some of the acronyms and definitions used in some post. Such as Ph Balanced water and RO water. Whats does this mean and does PPM have anything to do with these things? Just send me the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vtec9010 View Post
    Yeah that makes sense, I got the gist of it anyway haha. Thanks for the hospitality! One more thing I'd just like your input on is supercropping, FIM, and lollipopping,..which would you do in my case to maximize my yeild? or even a combination of them. I've read up on them on your previous posts and looked at the picture tutorials, very helpful by the way. I would reccomend looking at the picture tutorial for anyone who is a little shakey about what to do, it really helps especially if you're more of a visual learner like myself.
    stick to super cropping and FIMing... or LST and FIM... but super croppings much easier... dont worry too much about lollipopping until you can see how your strain does.. if its really touchy for instance it could cause hermies from lollipopping due to stress..

    Quote Originally Posted by choempi View Post
    I thought only 35%
    whatever regular old household peroxide is

    Quote Originally Posted by showhard2handle View Post
    alright my man, say fuk & threw the 600 watt on the ol credit card & got that en route. Will be here & ready to roll for when autos finish.

    Here are some close ups.

    Not nearly as nice as I like, fukd w/ the light a little, but still couldn't get some o' the ones I really wanna post. Hopefully these can give ya better idea bout chop & what not.

    If not, lemme know, and I'm gonna stick a reg lamp in there or something w/ hps off & see what I can do. Got good camera, just need to make sure I know what i'm doin.

    Thanks my man, I hope she's a monster load.

    Again, thanks a praise to you my man, you are truly the man.



    yeah, also took a pic of a rock wool cube that is pretty indicative of my whole situation. Out o' curiousity, how long can those roots get before it starts to become an un-healthy enviro. for them? You know my timeline. Thanks man
    im sure after seeing the pics your a few weeks out... definitely no longer prolly around 18 days or so...

    they look good tho... very nice first run

    glad to hear you went with the 600.. you'll be much happier in the end...

    as long as the plant can be supported (ie enough water and nutrients) they will be fine in those cubes until you are ready for them... just make sure there is no mold/algae growing and they arent sitting in water


    Quote Originally Posted by GeeBee3000 View Post
    Hey what's up simpsonsampson420, I got a quick question. I'm just confused about some of the acronyms and definitions used in some post. Such as Ph Balanced water and RO water. Whats does this mean and does PPM have anything to do with these things? Just send me the link.
    ill be happy to explain this and whatever else you may have questions on...

    alright so first is PH balanced water.... water ph varries depending on the source... so anytime you use water to flush a medium or feed with you want to make sure its ph balanced.. by that i simply mean have it in the correct ph area.. 5.5 to 6.5... that way anything that binds with the water molecules (nutrient wise) is available to the plant...

    RO water is reverse osmosis water... this is water that is ran through a reverse osmosis machine... basically its just water that has 0ppms... its completely "clean" water... most other waters, especially tap and well waters, have dissolved stuff in them.. using RO water just ensures that the ppm readout you get is all nutrients and nothing that was already in there...

    in a round about way they both can be related to ppms... the nutrient strength vs the amount of water can affect ph... and RO water ensures a 0ppm reading to begin with..

    hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpsonsampson420 View Post

    im sure after seeing the pics your a few weeks out... definitely no longer prolly around 18 days or so...

    they look good tho... very nice first run

    glad to hear you went with the 600.. you'll be much happier in the end...

    as long as the plant can be supported (ie enough water and nutrients) they will be fine in those cubes until you are ready for them... just make sure there is no mold/algae growing and they arent sitting in water
    Nice, I'll try to perfect my photo skills to keep ya updated.

    I need to start flushin w/ just plain distilled 1 week prior????

    Could you refresh my memory on your suggested technique for flush?

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    Hey Sampson,
    Just another quick question for you. You helped me make my decision on the 600w hps light and I just wanted to know a few things. First off, would i use that light from germination until harvest? (If so, how close during germination and veg, because I know you can keep floros close because they don't put out much heat but I wasn't really sure about hps) My budget is a little limited but is a little flexible and I was wondering if I would get better results using differen't types of lights for veg and flowering.
    Thanks in advance for helping this noob.

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    Is yellowing of leaves often caused by a nitrogen deficiency? Because today I noticed that all my plants are starting to get yellowing on large lower leaves. I guess I should have listened when you said to add the growbig if there wasn't much nitrogen in the other 2 ferts. Is this the most likely problem? The biggest one started getting issues again like i said earlier, with the top sets curling in and now the lowers turning yellow. The other 2 plants were perfectly fine in everyway until today I noticed that some of their leaves are losing their shade of green and heading for yellow.

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