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Old 07-14-2007, 02:26 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm brand new to this stuff, basically I ended up with a 2 bedroom because I couldn't find a single bedroom where I was moving too. I figured I would turn the second bedroom into a new hobby.

Here are some pics of the room (give it some time):






The whole room is about 8'X12'
The closet is about 2'X4.5'
The ceiling is 8'

Alright so now that you have some background, I'm wondering what my best setup would be. As you can see there is a vent on top of the doorway (good or bad thing I'm not sure?)

I wanted to go the SOG method, seems to make the most sense to me. Also I would like to have a few stages of growth. Example - small clones/vegetating/flowering. I would also need a place to keep a mother for cloning.

As you can also see there are a few shelves in the closet. They are both just a little over 1' in height. Not sure if I can use these for anything.

Now getting to my questions:

1. The room seems really open to me. When I see other setups they seem to be closed in with some reflective/white material (probably to keep light from being wasted I think?) Anyway, would I have to build some kind of mini room with walls or would I be able to just put a table in the room and set some trays on it and hang the lights from the ceiling?

2. What is the best use I can get out of this closet? This is also concerning me because if I have the lights in the closet going 18/6 or just 24 then it is going to be difficult to block all the light.

3. What can I use to block the light from the window, and my door. Do I have to block the vent on the top of the door?

4. Should I buy one of these "grow tents" or do you think I can get this going without spending that money?

5. I live in Canada. Are there any good websites that I can purchase this equipment from that will ship here?

Thanks for any help that you guys provide. I hope I have enough information here for you to run with and get me started!

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Looks like a great place to start a garden. I would use the little closet for clones and a mother and use a couple 1000 watters in the bed room. Use some sheets and plywood or that insulated board. Whatever you do make it look like its not covered from the outside. Anything that has cracks in it can be sealed off with liquid foam. Or you can bisqueen the whole room. I wouldnt bother with a tent. Too small and not worth the money. Most websites on the net will most likely ship to you.
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Thanks for the reply.

Would you use fluorescents for the mother/clones or would you use fluorescents on the clones and metal halide on the mother?

Also I think multiple 1000 watters would be too much hydro. I'm not sure how people run these huge lights (unless they have a generator.) What kind of spike in my bill would I be looking at if I went with one 1000 or a few 400's?
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my hydro on one 1000 is about an extra 80-90 $ will grow about 2 lbs and youve got a kickass space to do it. how much money are you willing to spend?
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Well I'm willing to spend a decent amount up front because I know it will pay me back eventually.

Probably $800-1000. I'm not sure what that will get me.

I'm not worried about the extra hydro cost really, but more how suspicious my bill will look when it spikes up that much. That being said I haven't even been here a month yet.
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2x 1000w 500-600$
good vent fan 200$
nutes pots soil 150$

use house fans for in room circulation and thats very basic startup costs if you have a hydro store in your neighbourhood
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Wow this looks like an exciting thread, im gonna subscribe to this one . If i were you I would do a little homework and find out exactly how much a grow is going to cost your landlord, assuming utilities all inclusive? Also, i'd try to get a feeling for what this guy is like, see if he can be bought, for instance do you have a buyer for each harvest? Of course though, the best solution to any of these "problems" is to not get caught. Do ALL your homework, tons and tons of reading. If you're planning on only 1 1kWatt light, you might be best for a stealth grow ie you'll need 60Watt/sqft. Anyhow, keep us all updated, pm me if you need anything else.


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switch all you light bulbs to cfls that helps save quite a few watts
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I have been reading all kinds of stuff but everything I read is more when you already have everything setup, not necessarily making decisions like this (everybody's setup is different.)

The hydro is not all inclusive, I pay it. I guess if I just say someone moved in then that might account for 100 a month? I thought that is how they usually get you.

I also have a computer that runs 24X7 and has been since I got here. That does not necessarily need to be the case so I can just turn that off most of the time.
Question about the fan. When you say "good vent fan" what kind of fan are you talking about? Does it attach to the light cover? Where would I actually vent the air too?

Also what website do you guys recommend for buying this equipment discreetly?

Thanks everybody for your input!
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if your using an entire room you would just hang both lights over your grow space and use a good inline fan or cage blower with or without a filter. you would want anapprox 1000cfm fan or multiple fans venting all the hot air from the top of the room. go to bustan.com and look at the ventilation options they have there to get a rough idea of what they look like and the sizes. i like to have enough vent power to vent my entire room in one minute so your working with about 800 foot cubed i would install a 1000 cfm fam to vent and would place it near the lights at the top of the room where heat collects and then you need to let fresh air in from somewhere a door/window.
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