Hi all! This is my second time trying this seriously. The first time was from a surprise sprout of 6 year old seeds found in a box so I played around and got something adequate after alot of mistakes.

These clones from an indoor grow were given to me about 7 weeks ago and they had been in just water and rock wool for probably 3 weeks before that and were showing the fact they had no nutes. I put them in some temporary soil and was squirting, and watering, them with fish emulsion mixed in the water which they responded very little to. About 6 days later they then went into the 10 inch pot you see with 2 parts organic hummus (rich potting soil), 1 part coarse topsoil (the kind with small sticks and rocks), 1 part steer manure, 2 table spoons powder 5-15-10 rose bloom, and some pearlite. I mixed it all together in a big bucket and divided among the 2 pots.

Since they came home they were under a 4' double floro light, one cool white, one warm white. I had to keep a heater running to achieve 65 or above and humidity was 40% or below. I watered as appropriate and also sprayed the leaves alot. I do get drinking water from the grocery osmosis stand but I discovered it is right at ph7.0, where as tap water is ph6.7 here. So I opted with the tap water. Left out for a while etc of course. They finally showed signs of improvement with vigorous growth 3 1/2 to 4 weeks ago. The first 2-3 weeks of these little clones was precarious. They just kept yellowing!

I have a 400w switchable metal/sodium ballast and 5 days ago I dug it out and replaced the floro with the MH light bulb in a hood. I also flushed the soil with about 1 1/2 times pot size water. I have good ventilation, and the temp runs about 75-80 F and 28-38% humidity.

With all the mistakes I made last time I got tall lanky plants and ended up having to tie the tops down just before flowering. This time I tied the tops down a couple weeks ago because it made sense. There was at least one side on each plant that didn't have much growth yet so I decided to tie in order to shade the barren area and promote the other more bushy side.

I also learned to just keep my hands out of it and stop messing with nutes. I haven't used any fert since they went into this soil and pot and they don't appear to have much of a problem with it. Some of the upper stems have always had some purple in them. The yellow in the picture is my very old digital camera and, also, all of that is light green new growth since the flushing. The next watering will probably have some fish emusion in it though. I figure I will flower them, switching to the sodium bulb, in another 2-3 weeks depending on how much they grow. I'm in no hurry though and have about 4' tall usable space after accounting for the hood being raised at max.

Should I veg them longer? Will the plant double in size? How long should I expect to flower them? 7-9 weeks?

I would like to take clones the night I decide to switch the schedule but I'm concerned if the clones will need the MH light before I'm done using that same ballast running 12/12 sodium. I have 2 of the 4' floro banks in a separate room. If the current time it took these plants to get to this size is normal from clones then I think I would be ready for the MH light just when the others are being harvested.

I'm interested in any thoughts you have have for the timing of clones and flowers, and if you see anything else I should be doing etc. Thanks!

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I found my seeds in an old box too. They were like 7 years old and didn't sprout. Good luck with this grow.

Well I f'd up I guess. About 3 weeks ago I started flowering them. I'm still new, I didn't pay attention to the signs, and I got balls. Both clones were from a female and I believe it as I saw the mother flowering when I got them. What I think I did wrong:
1) stayed under floro, two 4' 80w bulbs, one cool one warm for 6 initial weeks as I was *lazy* to get the hood out of the attic
2) Instantly went from floro to 400w MH without conditioning.
3) Stayed under halide for only 3 1/2 weeks then I switched instantly to sodium and 12 hour at the same time.

Otherwise they grew great with only one problem of some minor heat stress at the top which I fixed right away. Zero nute or water problems. If my light shocking didn't do it...what did?

I also took cuttings the day I switched to sodium and 12 hour. They're barely hanging on but I've been doing my best. Do you think these are male? I can't tell yet but I keep looking. They're 15 days old and I just put them in soil today. They seem to respond to a 20-20-20 chemical water soluable nute I'm using at very, very low concentrations.