You can only determine sex after you have entered the flowering stage correct?

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it can take up to 10 days, but some strains show sex before you flower

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ya most strains you have to be in flowering to determine the sex, but some strains are different. many people also do whats called pre-flowering, its when you go to 12/12 just to determine the sex then kill the males and revert back to veg. good luck man!

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This is not right...preflowering refers to the preflowers that grow in the vegetative state signaling the plant (sex) is ready to be flowered .......this along with alternating phyllotaxy

People should just wait for the preflowers to show instead of going to 12/12 and going back.......takes one hell of a lot longer and is pointless.......

To learn more about preflowers go to http://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=...category&id=53

thanks that helps on preflowering alot

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the bag seeds im growing showed me their privates parts 3 week veg on 24h lights

not to be rude but what is your reasoning behind the 24hr lighting?

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