just really fast-ive been reading about ppm and what not and im just making sure that you have to watch that and supply the nutes when using soil-or is it just for hydropoics

and if i need it for soil i was planning on just getting foxfarm supplies (growbig and whatever else is needed) - good plan or what? im a first time grower and they are just now sprouting out - im pumped - but need a little help

thanks

ppm has nothing to do with soil realy. it is for the nute mixes.
dont nute them till you get your 4th node, that is considered week 1. the week prior you can feed them a 1/8 nute mix of whatever your veg nute is, then when it actualy hits week 1 you can give 1/4. then follow directions.
be carefull using fox farms is has a high n/p/k level, noobs tend to burn. less is always better.
if you like i have a feed schedule i can send you for fox farm.

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If he has a ppm meter its not a bad idea to measure it anyways for consistency. (also measure the plain water for a baseline) But no reason to buy one. I got a tri meter for my pH just incase I wanted to go hydro, I was set and it wasn't much more. (but I dig dirt )

Funny thing about the FF schedule. Read the bottle, then the sched, and the sched is 1/2 dose of the bottle label. So when people say use a 1/2 dose, is that 1/2 of the bottle or sched?

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ok thanks-and yes that schedule would be great man

another thing - where can i pick up a ph kit? i was just at home depot and they didnt have anything really helpful-can i get something cheap that gives me ph and ppm? anyone recommend anything for a first time grow?

thanks for the help

another thing-just to get straight-im looking at meters on ebay - and what i need to do is get my water and add nutes to it and get my solution and then test the ph and then water plant right? and then ph is good? or do i need a soil meter to ph the soil and so on?

You wanna measure the water. Both in and out.
Those $5 soil pH testers are junk; always read 7.0 Measure the water.

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Hey Bonz, im using foxfarm grow supplies as well, could u send me the feeding schedule also?

week 1 is at 4th node.


FOX FARMS FEEDING SCHEDULES


WEEKLY FEEDING- per Gallon
Sprouting and week 1--BigBloom 2TBS
week 2-- 2tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 3--3tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 4--JUST 3 tspGrow Big + 1/4 tsp Open Sesame
Week 5 same as week 4 unless going 12/12--

Week 5- OR--day 1 of 12/12-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Open Sesame
Week 6--same as above
Week 7-- 2 Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 8-- 2Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 9-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Cha Ching
week 10-- Same as above
Week 11--2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Cha Ching


At beginning of week 11--Check Trichomes-- Flush if ready.. otherwise, continue as with week 11 every week until you flush!


Also recomended--but not a nessesity--
Bush Doctor Sledgehammer (prevents lock-out)
use 2 drops per gallon of water between feedings starting in week 4 of 12/12



PHASIC SHEDULE: (per gallon)
(follow this for bubblers, OR you can use these amounts when watering in soilbut is not as good as the weekly schedule for soil!)

New Clones, or when seedlings get 3 sets of leaves- 1tsp Grow Big + 2tsp Big Bloom
Week 3 of veg (unless going 12/12) ADD 1tsp Grow big + 2 tsp Big Bloom
4 Days Before going 12/12- Add ¼ tsp Open Sesame
Day 1 of 12/12 Drain Reservoir & refill. Add 2 tsp Tiger Bloom + 1TBS Big Bloom + ½ tsp Open Sesame
Week 3 of 12/12Add ¼ tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 5 of 12/12Drain and refill reservoir Add 2 tsp Grow Big + 1 tsp Tiger bloom + 1 TBS Big Bloom + ¼ tsp Cha ching
3-5 Days Before harvest-- Drain and refill reservoir add 2 drops Sledgehammer


keep the res filled in between feedings with ph adjusted water--



The reasonFox Farms doesn't list nutes for weeks 2 & 4 is that it ASSUMES your res won't go down, so you won't NEED any additional nutes (if your res stays full- great!)..
but if the plants are pretty big, or the room is warm/dry-- they can need refilling up to 3-4x a week!!! The chart doesn't take that into account--
Remember-- feed AT MOST 1x each week-- only water in-between!
Use additional nutes from week one at 1/2 rate until in flower (between recomended feeds) then in flower-- for additional feeds, use the nutes from the 1st week of flower at 1/2 rate in between...again--NEVER feed more than 1x a week!

Bubblers MAY use the weekly Schedules-- BUT ONLY if you use an ec/ppm meter to keep the levels where they should be....
an ec around 1.2-1.5 in veg.. then 1.5 -1.7 in flower unlitt the last 2-3 weeks... then can go as high as 2.0. Watch yor plants! they'll tell you if you are over/under feeding!

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awesome-extremely helpful-thanks alot

Hey BBB you say ph should be taken of water in and drainage water ... what are we looking for in the drainage water as far as PH and what can we do to corrct if something is wrong ... and what would be wrong as far as run off PH ?

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