Care Giver..or Drug Dealer?

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Anyone who has the above ^^^ mentioned scheme of being a caregiver should jump off a mid-sized cliff as to not instantly die but slowly experience the agonizing pain that comes w/ it.

Originally Posted by bob harris

The more I read posts by Timmahh and his minions, the more I am certain that they care not for patient rights. When a situation occurs that a patient can't grow their own meds, a care giver is a viable and fair means of support for that patient. As long as the care giver is just that, a care giver.

Yes, the care giver should be re numerated for his efforts. But no where in the law, or it's intent. was the care giver given the right to make care giving a high paid career.

That's exactly what Timmahh wants. he feels that a patient, should be allowed to become a cg, then grow out all 72 plants that he is legally "entitled" to. Regardless of actual patient needs. He is trying to justify that care giver flowering out 36 plants or so every 2 months. 108 oz dry at 3 oz per plant. Then suggests that it's fine for that cg to give his patients an oz a month...so 12 ozs from that 108..leaving 96 oz per month to sell to whomever he wish (so long as they have a card) at 200 an oz minimum. That's $19,200 every two months for the cg...That's a profiteer, a cannabis dealer, not a care giver...

He's trying to justify a six figure income...as fair compensation for helping 5 patients.....for work that is worth far , far less.

And that folks, has nothing to do with caring for patients....it's greed, pure and simple.

This is an impossible equation unless you can tell me what the risk of a Federal drug felony conviction is for that same 2 month period, as well as all expenses associated with it. Once you have the entire business plan laid out it should be simple to determine how much profiteering could occur in your scenario. I look forward to your fleshing this out some more.

i've seen your posts and I am not going to debate with you, because you obviously already have your mind made up about this issue. i am going to try and explain it so you or anyone else can understand. so with your logic a maxed out caregiver is going to get a set amount no matter what. that just doesn't make sense. it does not matter how many plants you have. it goes by grams per watt per time. so at .5 grams per watt per month you are going to need a 6000 watt flower room to do 3056 grams every 2 months. also, most plants have a longer cycle than that. not to mention a veg room that can house 36 plants. so another 3000 watts of veg we'll say. cooling 9000 watts alone takes some knowhow. try making the initial investment to grow 60 plants, let alone the hours of work that would go into them if you really take care of them and take your garden seriously. i am not going to debate anyone on whether caregivers should make money. you just sound really jealous when you make posts like this. the only people making alot of money caregiving are the ones who have put in the time, let them do their thing. i understand that it costs less than a dollar a gram to produce, but alot of people just can't do it.

Forget the risk... Now what is the problem. Who is timahhh and what is up?

Not everyone has the ability to be a true caregiver.... thus the world sees a non caregiver giving care. I am on the white side yet the white side gets slammed from the opposition quit often. I have talked of overhead before. I have talked of the deep greed before. So what is up? Do you wanna do something about it? If you could what would you do?

I have wanted to start a real compassion club for some time or at least join one but I will not be happy joining one for they are not me from what I have seen. I have been into 3 compassion clubs?/ Drug houses only to walk out depressed. The smoke may be good but fuck there are more things then the smoke that concern me.

White and Black Ying and Yang Dark and Day Cold and Hot... Positve and Negative yes that is it.

I think the big boys should pull up their big boy pants and strike a truce so that we can put this inter-community bitching to a rest once and for all. It just doesn't seem very productive anymore fellas.

Let's offer advice and get back to the nuts and bolts of what RIU is here for - HELPING ONE ANOTHER!

Also you changed your math halfway through from 108 oz every 2 months to 96 oz per month, which is it?

Originally Posted by CharlieBud

This is an impossible equation unless you can tell me what the risk of a Federal drug felony conviction is for that same 2 month period, as well as all expenses associated with it. Once you have the entire business plan laid out it should be simple to determine how much profiteering could occur in your scenario. I look forward to your fleshing this out some more.

Costs are not that much after the initial equipment purchase....and the felony drug charge is moot. The care giver chose to take on that responsibility..he wasn't forced.

what's it cost to set up a 72 plant grow? 10-15 thousand? after that, it's basically electricity and minimal supplies. operating costs may reach 3 grand a month..including amortization of the original equipment....tale 6k off that 19k every two months, and thats around $80,000 per year in gross profits. and that's at only 200 per oz...bump it up to 250 an oz..and your back to 6 figures per year..for tending 72 plants....an executive wage for a part time gardeners work.

I've never posted related to this topic, I am just tired of not saying anything about it. his numbers don't make sense.