Just for You Bob Harris. You could do another Happy Dance, more Potheads Busted.

You are flaming Bob, and spamming the forum, repeatedly.

Isn't this the sort of thing you don't allow at that failed site you evolved from?

We get it - you don't like his conservative views.
He is not the enemy though.

You guys drove everyone away locally with your over the top ranting.
You are wrong. It is not a mistake.
Please stop.

Won't get much sympathy here either....over on plant, over on dry...obviously bragging about their grow, as it sounds like the robbers were after weed.

Again..begging to get busted. Were they registered with GR? Caregivers HAVE to register in Gr...

I know there's a lot of confusion about when a clone becomes a plant because the law doesn't clarify anything about cuttings. I would presume that is where a great majority of people are getting busted on plant count. I certainly don't expect any dirty investigators to be understanding when you try to explain that a cutting isn't a plant until it has roots. Any naysayers?

As far as the story goes, it definitely sucks for the family being robbed and then getting drug through the mud even further with a police investigation on their medical grow, but from the information offered in the article it appears they at a minimum got busted with more dry bud than they were allowed. Then again, who's to say these pigs didn't throw a pile of trash trim on the scales with ready buds? Who's to say they didn't take a bunch of freshly chopped shit and throw that on the scales as well? I wouldn't put it past 'em to pull shit like that in which case the investigation is flawed but therein lies the gray area bullshit. The devil is always in the details. I'll call the plant count issue a tossup.

bob: you are correct on GR requiring CG's to register with the city. Could be wrong but I think the city ordinance even requires an initial inspection....can't remember if that was removed from the final language of the law or not. GR is a fairly hostile place to be a caregiver due to their invasive regulation. The initial drafting of the law allowed for anytime - no notice inspections that caregivers would have been required to submit to. Huge invasion of privacy but thankfully that part was removed from the final ordinance.

Originally Posted by FatMarty

You are flaming Bob, and spamming the forum, repeatedly.

Isn't this the sort of thing you don't allow at that failed site you evolved from?

We get it - you don't like his conservative views.
He is not the enemy though.

You guys drove everyone away locally with your over the top ranting.
You are wrong. It is not a mistake.
Please stop.

I have as much right to post factual stories as you or anyone else does.

Fatty, just be carefull or Bob will likely think your a criminal too. Though because bob grew Pot before 2008 for his MS, everyone else that use it like you or i, is just turning him into looking like a crimnal.

common sense (if it is so common, why do so FEW of us have any) says they are counting no root cuts as plants. carefull with that stem you pulled off because it was too low to do any good so you yanked it and tossed it in the scrap box. its a plant once its on its own.

so if you have 1 mom 2 girls in veg, 2 in bloom 2 hanging and and took 6 cuts, your one plant over the limit. pucker up, its going to be a long 14 yrs.


But through other cases that have made both State and Fed supreme court hearings. it has been ruled by the US SC, no roots, no plant. but we all know BS and the prosecution crew doesnt care about what the law says, unless it is for his own purpose and gain.

the point is, if he had 50 plants, and is a pt and a cg with 5 assinged pt, he is 22 plants under limit for that scenario. that means LEGAL. and registering with the city of GR is Unconstitutional.

Local Ordinance can NOT be more powerful than the Constitution of the State of Michigan, which is where our People Initiative, the 08 MMM Act resides in our laws. GR City rules can not trump the Constitution of the State. end of topic.

now to the fact of the matter, this is very similar scenario to another case in the high court of the state.

here, much like the case i just mentioned, the CG/PT is a Victim of a Violent Crime, in this case, a home invasion, Life Threatened with Deadly Force, Traumatized, perhaps thought he was going to be killed, and was lucky to live. Now HE CALLS to report the crime Against HIM, and has his home, possessions, Rifle that will no doubt mean federal firearm felony charges, further robbed from him by the Taxed Paid Public Service Agency that is supposed to protect him from the very fucking robbery he was calling to report.

anyone aware of what case im referring to in the above paragraph is? Hope you do, its one of the big ones that went to the SC so far.

Now add the fact this is a Legal MMM P CG with assinged Pts, they state 6, so he must also be a pt, and his Brother is a legal MMM P Pt, presumably one of his, and they were the victim of a violent crime, like any of us may be suseptable to, yes bob, even you, then add the LEO interaction, Why SHOULDN'T anyone be mad about this?

the reason i am directing these to mr harris is easy to understand. He states everyone else here is a criminal, while he who grew pot illegally for who knows how long prior to passing of the 08 MMM Act, is mr legal beagle and he never does nothing wrong, but everytime he gets the blame, he man he was framed (loved cheech and chong back in the 70s. lol)

i have zero tolerance for bull shit. and mr harris proclaiming to be the only motherfucker thats sick enough that he is about the only one here that SHOULD be an Authorized Pt of the state if pure michigan bull schuitte! Most of the drivel he says like everyone else is just a fucking low life criminal has tones of LEO, or at the minimum Big Dispensary money on a campaign of bull schuitte to get these bills passed, kill the CG/PT and Pt/Pt transfer model the Act ALLOWS LEGALLY, so the state Pts are forced to get their expensive state meds from one controlled place. think about it, we wont need CGs if they are not allowed to grow cannabis for themselves, let alone other patients. also remember Pt/Pt is already 1/2 fucked atm.

you can call me a conspiracy nut. but when 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 3, is it a conspiracy anymore?

but i ll leave you with this factoid.

Why was this not an issue for the first 2 yrs when Republican AG Mike Cox was governing this issue? it was only when BS and RS got into power it then was a BIG problem?? its no surprise BS is Smitt Mitts MI campaign manager, Is it that far of a leap to see that he is, and has been interviewing for the job of Federal Attorney General?

Im just recommending you folks take the glasses off, and look past your damn garden or wallet for a few damn seconds, and see the mac truck thats barreling down on you.

does this guy ever shut the hell up?????????

Originally Posted by jonnynobody

I know there's a lot of confusion about when a clone becomes a plant because the law doesn't clarify anything about cuttings. I would presume that is where a great majority of people are getting busted on plant count. I certainly don't expect any dirty investigators to be understanding when you try to explain that a cutting isn't a plant until it has roots. Any naysayers?

As far as the story goes, it definitely sucks for the family being robbed and then getting drug through the mud even further with a police investigation on their medical grow, but from the information offered in the article it appears they at a minimum got busted with more dry bud than they were allowed. Then again, who's to say these pigs didn't throw a pile of trash trim on the scales with ready buds? Who's to say they didn't take a bunch of freshly chopped shit and throw that on the scales as well? I wouldn't put it past 'em to pull shit like that in which case the investigation is flawed but therein lies the gray area bullshit. The devil is always in the details. I'll call the plant count issue a tossup.

bob: you are correct on GR requiring CG's to register with the city. Could be wrong but I think the city ordinance even requires an initial inspection....can't remember if that was removed from the final language of the law or not. GR is a fairly hostile place to be a caregiver due to their invasive regulation. The initial drafting of the law allowed for anytime - no notice inspections that caregivers would have been required to submit to. Huge invasion of privacy but thankfully that part was removed from the final ordinance.

GR does require an inspection gor elecrical and fire codes.

Originally Posted by Timmahh

common sense (if it is so common, why do so FEW of us have any) says they are counting no root cuts as plants. carefull with that stem you pulled off because it was too low to do any good so you yanked it and tossed it in the scrap box. its a plant once its on its own.

so if you have 1 mom 2 girls in veg, 2 in bloom 2 hanging and and took 6 cuts, your one plant over the limit. pucker up, its going to be a long 14 yrs.


But through other cases that have made both State and Fed supreme court hearings. it has been ruled by the US SC, no roots, no plant. but we all know BS and the prosecution crew doesnt care about what the law says, unless it is for his own purpose and gain.

No one is clear on "a plant'..I stay safe and count even my fresh cuttings...But someone SHOULD SPONSOR A BILL, to define that..so we know. My definition would be when it has roots..but what do I know..


My point being..why do people feel the need to push it? If these people just took a conservative approach, they wouldn't be over on count. So, yes, although I don't like to see anyone get busted, I also have a hard time feeling sorry for them when they have just been greedy. They pushed it, and got caught. And it's rarely that they are "1 plant over" as Timmahh would have you believe..