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    Quote Originally Posted by medical/420 View Post
    I am sure you are aware of this already, but it would be so much cheaper on the power bill to run a Big fan though Aircooled hoods. and have a small window A/C that could keep it cool in there. just my $0.02
    honestly im drawing LESS amps now that i have my split a/c set up than i was running aircooled lights mini splits are extremely efficient... also i run a sealed room so the window a/c would screw that up and waste my co2...also the glass on the hoods knocks down 15% of the lumens(this is when its completely clean..think about how much lumens knocks down when theres dust build up on the lens)... and lastly when its hot as fuck outside its NOT hot as fuck in my grow room and now that i have it set up this way i wish i would of done it a long time ago...so those are my reasons for going this route
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    What system(s) did you end up choosing and did u have the help of an hvac installer? thanks


    Quote Originally Posted by kindfarms420 View Post
    honestly im drawing LESS amps now that i have my split a/c set up than i was running aircooled lights mini splits are extremely efficient... also i run a sealed room so the window a/c would screw that up and waste my co2...also the glass on the hoods knocks down 15% of the lumens(this is when its completely clean..think about how much lumens knocks down when theres dust build up on the lens)... and lastly when its hot as fuck outside its NOT hot as fuck in my grow room and now that i have it set up this way i wish i would of done it a long time ago...so those are my reasons for going this route

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    Are you trying to cool 8,000watts with 18,000BTU sealed room or 4,000watts?

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    I am thinking about framing in 2 - 10x10 rooms, w/ 4k in each room. I am thinking a dual zone system and it splits between the 2 rooms. I already own 5 Raptors, so I am going to use them. I will have them set up so the air blows right through them and through the rooms, so I can still run co2 and I should have less cool with the lights being cooled. Money is a factor at the moment, so I can't just go overkill and then not worry about it. Buying 4 Adjust-a-wings for the other room is an option, but again, I am limited somewhat on the ac I purchase and I do not want to redo this several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SketchyGrower View Post
    I'd say no, that is not going to cool a total of 8,000 watts IMO..
    Quote Originally Posted by gladstoned View Post
    Well I have a 10" Vortex that will be cooling the lights. I will even run them in 2 rows and get another 10" Vortex. I am running 5k watts with no AC right now. The OP isn't or wasn't cooling his lights. Huge difference. (But obviously I am worried about it or I wouldn't be asking. lol)
    Sketchy, what size you thinking?

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    glad.. just to let you know im using my raptors still just took out the glass that way no money is wasted
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    Quote Originally Posted by abe supercro View Post
    What system(s) did you end up choosing and did u have the help of an hvac installer? thanks

    i bought 2 24000BTU mini split (heat and A/c) the brand is seneville (there a brand new brand this year made by toshiba or shinco).. and yes i did have a hvac guy help me but just to vacuum out the lines before the freon shit got released into the system... you can burn up the outdoor compressor if you dont vacuum the lines out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kindfarms420 View Post
    honestly im drawing LESS amps now that i have my split a/c set up than i was running aircooled lights mini splits are extremely efficient... also i run a sealed room so the window a/c would screw that up and waste my co2...also the glass on the hoods knocks down 15% of the lumens(this is when its completely clean..think about how much lumens knocks down when theres dust build up on the lens)... and lastly when its hot as fuck outside its NOT hot as fuck in my grow room and now that i have it set up this way i wish i would of done it a long time ago...so those are my reasons for going this route
    kindfarms. I am not trying to be redonedent but I am framing in some rooms today and setting up very similar set-up. I cannot wrap my head around not air cooling my lights. Later on today I will try to post sketch of what I am trying to do. I have an addition on this house so I do not have the luxury of having a straight run for my ducting either. That is proving to be quite the pain in my ass. I haven't even picked out a mini-split yet. I have the lighting for the one room, I am really tempted to buy Adjust-a-wings when I complete the other room.
    and do your method but with the different reflectors. If I had the cash I would buy a big water chiller and set up the ebb n gro bucket system and chill the res and get 4-8" ice boxes for the lights. Damn. That is exactly how I should do both rooms. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gladstoned View Post
    kindfarms. I am not trying to be redonedent but I am framing in some rooms today and setting up very similar set-up. I cannot wrap my head around not air cooling my lights. Later on today I will try to post sketch of what I am trying to do. I have an addition on this house so I do not have the luxury of having a straight run for my ducting either. That is proving to be quite the pain in my ass. I haven't even picked out a mini-split yet. I have the lighting for the one room, I am really tempted to buy Adjust-a-wings when I complete the other room.
    and do your method but with the different reflectors. If I had the cash I would buy a big water chiller and set up the ebb n gro bucket system and chill the res and get 4-8" ice boxes for the lights. Damn. That is exactly how I should do both rooms. Thanks guys.
    I was kinda wondering about the non air cooled lights, i will lose 15% of light because of the glass if it saves me 50% on my power bill. I have not had my A/c on yet this year in the flower room . but I have a 800 cfm fan sucking all the hot air from my lights. acouple nights ago my Heater came on when my lights were on because the temp got to low.

    my veg room has a non air cooled light and that thing heats the room up fast and i have troble keeping it cool.

    This winter i am taking all the glass of my reflectors and heating the house,
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    Quote Originally Posted by gladstoned View Post
    kindfarms. I am not trying to be redonedent but I am framing in some rooms today and setting up very similar set-up. I cannot wrap my head around not air cooling my lights. Later on today I will try to post sketch of what I am trying to do. I have an addition on this house so I do not have the luxury of having a straight run for my ducting either. That is proving to be quite the pain in my ass. I haven't even picked out a mini-split yet. I have the lighting for the one room, I am really tempted to buy Adjust-a-wings when I complete the other room.
    and do your method but with the different reflectors. If I had the cash I would buy a big water chiller and set up the ebb n gro bucket system and chill the res and get 4-8" ice boxes for the lights. Damn. That is exactly how I should do both rooms. Thanks guys.
    The difference can be rather extreme. Room A) four 1000w air cooled over 96 plants was averaging .62 gpw for a total of 2480 grams. Room B) 7x 600w adjust a wings over 96 plants, same exact pheno as room A) was averaging .83 gpw for a total of 3486 grams for an extra 200 watts you can be getting an extra 1000g's . I will always air cool the room not the lights.
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