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Medical Marijuana Patients forums; Well my friend is a breeder and he says not to take them after two-three weeks into bloom cycle if ...
06-16-2012, 10:05 AM
Well my friend is a breeder and he says not to take them after two-three weeks into bloom cycle if you want them to grow back.
After a couple weeks they quit regenerating and that's that.
Fan leaves feed the branch they shoot off of.
IMO - a healthy branch supports a healthy bud - so...
Fan leaves also serve a very important function besides immediate nutrition for the stem:
they also hold reserve nutrients for when the plant experiences stress or a lack of feeding.
This is why they turn color after a flush - the flush strips the nutes out of medium - then plants suck the last drops of goodness from the fan leaves to finish.
Whatever you do - don't take them from tight kolas as they often 'bleed' at the cut and this can easily cause Bud Rot.
Hopes this helps.
06-16-2012, 10:08 AM
at last.. a Full overstanding!!
06-16-2012, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE=SammyBerne;7579523 it almost killed my No Name, all the fans leaves took a hit, so I plucked them, ...ALL of them. This was done during the first week of the switch 12/12 Today at 6 weeks in the plant looks beautiful, I can't wait to see the final harvest weight. Another strain Kandy Kush, I got as a clipping from a friend, he told me he strips all the fan leaves off before the flip and the plant loves it, if he doesn't strip them she does very poorly in flower. So I took his advice, and today at 5 weeks in, she is also looking quite lovely. I've found what works for me and I've only been growing 3 months. Good luck you all with yours.....[/QUOTE]
I have packs of no name of smile just waiting to kick some ass!
06-16-2012, 01:13 PM
cutting a ton of fan leaves off during flowering makes your plant slow its growth....its best to do all your trimming in the veg stage. If you do it right you dont have a forest to worry about when its flowering.
06-19-2012, 06:27 AM
yes. trimming to much during flowering will slow your growth. and possibly turn ur plant hermie. any stress in mid-late flowering can cause this. even small things such as light leaks.. plants falling over.. etc. if you are worried about bigger fan leaves blocking budsites from recieving light.. instead of choppin them off... get a twisty tie/break tie or sum string.. and pull them back and tie them to the branch.. problem solved. trimming lower branches off is deff a plus in my opinion.. lollipopping will increase yields and budsize overall.. and save you time from trimming tiny airy buds that once dry, will yield 0.nothing... lol. i usually trim the lower 1/3 or lower 1/4 of my plant.. you should do most of this during veg... IF you do plan on doing this during flowering.. be very careful.. and do 1 small branch every few days.. DO NOT do it all at once.. it will become such a shock to the plant to lose all the lower branches.. it will think its under attack.. and make a last attempt at re-producing.. in turn.... producing nanners/pollen sacks to produce seeds as quickly as possible.. good luck everyone.
Sammy - plants did NOT take well to it. fan leaves were burnt to shit.. one tip when spraying anhy kind of spray... always test it on a couple leaves of 1 plant.. see how it reacts.. and make sure you spray right before the lights go off... or as soon as the lights do go off... i think wat happened with mine... the spray had neem oil in it.. and the light reflected off the oil... almost magnifying the light.. which caused the burn... if you found what works for you, then go right ahead.. and dont change ur method because I or sum1 else told you to.. but u may want to do a side by side grow.. and try growing 2 plants.. one with and one without fanleaves.. 2 of the same clones if possible to be accurate. and see the difference.. fan leaves store alot of nutrients and also absorb alot of light - in turn - giving more energy to the plant to make buds.. grow taller... etc.. good luck man!!
**Also... @FatMarty.. FAN leaves will not regenerate. even during the veg cycle... once theyre gone theyre gone. =-/ thats why i say to tie them down if ur worried about light not getting to budsites. everything else you sais seems right on point... im not tryna shut down ur statement.. or ur breeder friends knowledge... but they deff do not regenerate. you can cut the tops/tips off of branches during veg. (Topping / Fimming) and after a fwe days - 1 week. they will heal and create 2-3+ tops.. soo they kind of regenerate. maybe thtas what he was talking about...
well hope sum of this info helps sum1 out. later guys
Last edited by chb444220; 06-19-2012 at 06:34 AM.
06-19-2012, 07:18 AM
Yeah chb they sometimes regrow Above the shoot, or the next set of fans on the shoot will enlarge, if not too late in bloom.
That's what I think he meant.
Not hurting my feelings man.
At any rate - I think it's a bad idea to keep cutting them off if they aren't infested or something.
Out in Cali the commercial growers all seem to trim the fans about halfway instead of pinching them completly off.
At least that's what I was noticing on all those early videos with the revolving lights and stuff.
What I heard on that is the plant often does not need the entire fan leaf and you can open up bud sites with the trim.
There must be something to it; whenever I get a clone from my friend it is trimmed that way.
06-19-2012, 07:32 AM
Not sure if I am talking about something completely different, but I was told that many clones have trimmed leaves so that they fit better in trays when you have several all together.
Like loading a cloner, or putting 50 cuttings in a tray.
06-19-2012, 07:39 AM
when you take clones.. you want to cut the fan leaves about 1/2way.. 2 reasons why.. 1st. the clone is small. and doesnt need such big fan leaves to grow. and 2nd.. since the leaves are cut.. the clone focuses more on NEW growth.. and not older growth. as for them being cut JUST so they can fit better.. i doubt it.. but it sure does help. lol. it would be very crowded if they all had full fan leaves everywhere. and @Fatmarty. ive never heard of that before? fan leaves re-growing. ill have to look into that tho. ive never had any of mine do that.. but that doesnt mean it cant happen ya know. it would make sense that the fan newer fan leaves would be slightly bigger.. just like when you trim off lower branches.. the other branches get bigger. and grow bigger buds.
06-19-2012, 11:03 AM
a third reason is that cutting stops moisture loss. don't snip and watch the tips curl.
Originally Posted by chb444220
i also like that it shows where the clone started growing from. new growth is easy to spot
06-19-2012, 01:12 PM
^THIS is the main reason why^. It prevents transpiration.
Originally Posted by HomeLessBeans
In layman's terms.... the surface of the leaf will discharge water vapor, and if this process exceeds the rate in which your stem uptakes water then the clone will fail. Less leaf surface area = less transpiration (similar to evaporation).
I've also heard people say that by cutting the leaves in half, it's less foliage that the clone has to support thus directing more energy to root production. Not sure if this is true, but it sounds good in theory.