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    Quote Originally Posted by Corbat420 View Post
    Because rendering plant matter causes plant waxes, chlorophyll, Water soluble carbohydrates and other things to be rendered out of the plant matter. a Proper oil extraction can end up being 75%+ cannabinoids (THC,THCV,CBA,CBD and others). theer have been some oils tested (Such as pure gold) that have a 95% Cacannabinoid content



    Which is why i added the P.S. its chemicly impossible to render THC to a point where you can add water, and drink it..... it just doesn't work that way. you have to sauce the THC to bond to a Fat or Solvent (Dairy, or Alcohol..). from there you have to render down the substance (Alcohol leaves oil, Dairy leaves dairy fats). from there you would have to dehydrate and "Powder" the substance.

    Doing all of that still doesn't change the fact that cannabinoids are NOT water soluble. you NEED to make a dairy tea or a tincture to cause the THC to bond.

    THC + an Ester group (Via Acid) / purified by column chromatograph = TAC (TetraAlkylCanabinol) .... But unless you have a Masters degree, good luck...

    tetrahydrocannabinol = NOT water soluble.
    tetraalkyl cannabinol = Water soluble.
    Yes THC is NOT water soluble. Oil isn't water soluble either for that matter you're just going to be drinking tea with oil in it. And alcohol can just as easily extract plant waxes, chlorophyll, etc as well it all depends on how good you are with the process. Theoretically you could make the powder if you had a method of making powdered milk. Just extract the THC into the milk fat and then make powdered milk from it. It should retain the fat with the THC attached. Sounds hard as balls though.
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    Oil isn't water soluble either for that matter you're just going to be drinking tea with oil in it. And alcohol can just as easily extract plant waxes, chlorophyll, etc as well it all depends on how good you are with the process.
    #1. The oil is bonded to the Milk, which is bonded to the water. When its PROPERLY done its not just a drink with oil in it....

    #2. Yes alcohol can suspend the plant waxes as well, but like i said before when its PROPERLY done its 75%+ cannabinoids....

    Theoretically you could make the powder if you had a method of making powdered milk. Just extract the THC into the milk fat and then make powdered milk from it. It should retain the fat with the THC attached. Sounds hard as balls though.
    Dairy allready has high Fat content, and you have to add More creme to get More oil to bond with the creme....Due to the nature of fats and oils, even if you managed to Evaporate ALL of the water without spoiling the dairy, you would be left with an oily, fatty powder... Commercial powdered milk is SKIM milk (NO fat..), so you have to fund Full Creme powdered milk....

    IDK if this would work, but im starting to think its the only real way to get a "Powdered" form of THC.....
    Extract oil to ISO
    Add powdered milk (FULL creme) as a saturating agent
    Boil off alcohol
    Mix oily powder with water and heat to Render into 2 distinct layers
    Let cool and take the top layer off (milk fat / cannabinoids are lighter than water, and will settle on the top, forming a puck)

    Dissolve Purified fatty oils in Alcohol a second time
    Ensure the mixture is FULLY dissolved (Use LOTS of Alcohol)

    Boil off the alcohol and water (The alcohol evaporation will loft the water in the mixture)
    Purify Powder by dry heating (to 65-70C)
    Scrape up remaining powder...


    i have to find some Full creme powdered milk and try this....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corbat420 View Post
    #1. The oil is bonded to the Milk, which is bonded to the water. When its PROPERLY done its not just a drink with oil in it....

    #2. Yes alcohol can suspend the plant waxes as well, but like i said before when its PROPERLY done its 75%+ cannabinoids....



    Dairy allready has high Fat content, and you have to add More creme to get More oil to bond with the creme....Due to the nature of fats and oils, even if you managed to Evaporate ALL of the water without spoiling the dairy, you would be left with an oily, fatty powder... Commercial powdered milk is SKIM milk (NO fat..), so you have to fund Full Creme powdered milk....

    IDK if this would work, but im starting to think its the only real way to get a "Powdered" form of THC.....
    Extract oil to ISO
    Add powdered milk (FULL creme) as a saturating agent
    Boil off alcohol
    Mix oily powder with water and heat to Render into 2 distinct layers
    Let cool and take the top layer off (milk fat / cannabinoids are lighter than water, and will settle on the top, forming a puck)

    Dissolve Purified fatty oils in Alcohol a second time
    Ensure the mixture is FULLY dissolved (Use LOTS of Alcohol)

    Boil off the alcohol and water (The alcohol evaporation will loft the water in the mixture)
    Purify Powder by dry heating (to 65-70C)
    Scrape up remaining powder...


    i have to find some Full creme powdered milk and try this....
    You're obviously far more skilled in chem. than I (sadly this is something that interests me but I never have time for) and it sounds like you've got a pretty interesting refined method there.

    I know they make powdered milk with high fat content (full cream as you said) I'm just guessing it's pretty rare or in low demand. Sounds like a hell of a process but would be interesting.
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    Mr ganaj I believe your right with the full creme idea, I did look at making powdered milk but not for long because I quickly found out it was a very difficult process. I found 99.9% acetone at home depot, so no worries there. I'll try a couple ideas once my oil's done. right now it's sitting in that acetone and I'm gonna give it a nice long time before I try anything. this powdered thc HAS to be possible because they do it at the dispensary and I tested it trust me it works haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfish914 View Post
    Mr ganaj I believe your right with the full creme idea, I did look at making powdered milk but not for long because I quickly found out it was a very difficult process. I found 99.9% acetone at home depot, so no worries there. I'll try a couple ideas once my oil's done. right now it's sitting in that acetone and I'm gonna give it a nice long time before I try anything. this powdered thc HAS to be possible because they do it at the dispensary and I tested it trust me it works haha
    I really would reconsider the acetone, when working with chemicals involving something that's going to be ingested it's best to pick something a little less nasty. Even isopropyl alcohol would be a better choice, I'd go with Ethanol myself just to be sure. But hey it's your call.
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    Have you checked out dry ice hash maybe that would give you a better consistency to work with


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