
03-24-2007, 05:00 PM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2007
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| |  Real bad headline. People are time bombs, drugs are just triggers... Only reason why I smoke dope is because I watched Reefer Madness!  | 
03-24-2007, 09:45 PM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northeastern USA
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| | The 'logic of this article escapes me. If it becomes accepted that there is a causual link'. No, you would have to prove a 'Causual link'. The first question you have to ask is, how prevelant was the illness without the marijuana.
The second one would have to be, why aren't 90,000,000 people that have smoked marijuana at some time in the US mentally ill. The same paper had an article about a parent who's son commited suicide. She has written a book about it.
Her son told her he used it because then he didn't hear the voices. She doesn't believe that, she has decided the marijuana caused the illness. While I sympathize with her over the loss of her son, I still can't believe the paper actually printed the story. Well, I guess they printed this one. SIlly me. VV | 
03-25-2007, 03:03 PM
|  | Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Highland
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Pot depends on animals eating it to spread its seeds. It would make no sense for it to harm its offsprings transportation. Not to mention rude
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Well its more like Human's Smoking it to keep and plant the seeds  haha animals in the wild eat everylast bit of it.... savage's
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03-26-2007, 03:46 PM
| | Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by TillthedayiDIE420 haha animals in the wild eat everylast bit of it.... savage's |
Yeah those bastards. Anyways if it were to be killing them or harming them they wouldnt be eating it. DEER LOVE WEED :O | 
03-29-2007, 03:16 AM
|  | Pot Head Stoner | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: in a house
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| | I have a few buddies with chemical unbalances , skit's and weed is no good for them i really changes the way they think and act . I wouldnt go as far to say weed is the cause but i sure does magnify existing problems . | 
03-29-2007, 07:55 AM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dixie
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| | yeah, it would be best to ignore all the real research that points to viral and genetic factors involved in schizophrenia type illnesses....
we should blame weed for causing global warming and mold on cheese while we're at it.
i mean, what kind of article is this? A spokesman for the charity said: “We now know that cannabis can be a trigger for mental health problems and smoking it under the age of 18 can double people’s chances of developing psychosis.”
none of the scientists are quoted as saying anything remotely similar to this!!
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03-29-2007, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by silk  Real bad headline. People are time bombs, drugs are just triggers... Only reason why I smoke dope is because I watched Reefer Madness!  | People are bombs... Drugs can be triggers for some, but for others... You should see me when im out of weed...  | 
03-29-2007, 02:01 PM
|  | Teaching How To Roll Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2006
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| | Yea, you guys, these are thoroughly bogus "studies".
I read this book about 20 years ago. Whenever I think of mental illness, this book comes to mind....
I recommend it enthusiastically for anyone interested in schizophrenia. The Eden Express: A Memoir of Insanity by Mark Vonnegut (Paperback - Oct 2002) Book Description
"Most diseases can be separated from one’s self ... schizophrenia is something we are." So begins Mark Vonnegut’s depiction of his descent into, and eventual emergence from, mental illness. As a recent college graduate, self-avowed hippie, and son of a counterculture hero, Vonnegut begins to experience increasingly delusional thinking, suicidal thoughts, and physical incapacity. In February 1971 he is committed to a psychiatric hospital. The Eden Express, an ALA Notable Book first published over 25 years ago, is his honest, thoughtful, and moving account of the illness of schizophrenia. This edition features a new foreword by Kurt Vonnegut and a new preface by the author. "Required reading for those who want to understand insanity from the inside." — The New York Times
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04-11-2007, 11:34 AM
|  | Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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| | Ok, I will be the contrarian and open myself to attack on this one. I am not willing to dismiss this article out of hand. First off, let provide a little background. The Mrs and I spoke each night. Nothing major, maybe a joint or 2. On weekends, we smoke more - maybe 4 or 5 joints. I started smoking seriously in my mid-30s. I'm 40 now.
Now my beliefs. I don't think teens and kids should be smoking weed. I believe their brains and personalities are still developing and like it or not, weed does affect one's personality ("couch-lock", euphoric high, etc.). I'm not even talking about weed being a "gate-way" drug or anything. I am talking about knowing 2 people personally who smoked weed daily when we were teens together. Both are now diagnosed as mentally ill. Now, I'm no scientist but my personal belief is that these guys had a predisposition to mental illness and the weeds either directly triggered their illness or reduced their own psychological ability to "keep things together". Again, this is all just my opinion.
This may sound hypocritical to some but I say we legalize weed but restict it's use to adults only. | 
04-12-2007, 12:30 AM
|  | Marijuana Toker Marijuana Toker | | Join Date: Mar 2007
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| | Yeah, i tend to agree with hearmenow. While i think the "dangers" of weed that are reported in those countries that it is illegal, is fairly bogus, it does contain some truths.
every single substance known to us has effects on the human body. we eat because it gives use energy and nutrients, we drink because our bodies need water. we consumer alcohol to gain the effects of being drunk. we smoke to get high. the problem is there are so many things we are putting into our bodies along with the basic body needs. preservatives, carcinogens, free-radicals and a concution of crazy shit.
Weed is natural, but has things that can affect the body and mind adversaly, just like sugar can affect our metabolisms to "evolve" developing diabetes. While it is in no way dangerous, or a problematic drug as the authorities would have us beleive - it is a substance in which we introduce into our body that we do not need (excluding medical applications) and henceforth can upset a balance that our body and mind might have worked out.
i think weed can affect people who have a more delicate balance in their bodies and minds, and adequate education and assistance should be available for those who chose to use it. illegalisation, and criminalisation is a breach of human rights.
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