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Old 06-02-2008, 01:40 PM
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Default anyone use mm for metal illness, psychotic symptoms,mood disorder
I use mm to treat a psychotic disorder calle schizoaffective. On top of taking a dily dose of antipsychotic and anti depressants I have foundcannabs to be very effective in controlling symptoms including pranoia, suicidal thopughts, hearing voices (to an extent) and it is an exelent way to elevate your mood.
I was reading in high times about studies over seas and in he u.s. being done in order t prove tht marijuana CAUSES mental illness and psychosis. Itwas a great read and made me realize that there are many people out there sffering from mental impairments that use cannabi sfely to alleviate syptoms. And the crazy prohibitionists will stop at nothing to ensure the reputation that cannbis is not medicine an any other lie they get to mislead the public with.
So if theres anyone on riu that uses mm to control mental illness let me know. The good and the bad.
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Well for mental illness. MM can definitely help you diagnose your situation better, and deal with your problems. It really removes stress and lets you work with yourself.

But it can be bad because of psychological addiction. This isn\'t because weed causes a addiction, it is because you become Dependant on anything that helps, especially if you have a mental illness that is described as such.

Weed isn\'t going to do any damage that wasn\'t there before. It is very safe. Whats not safe is all the brainwashing that causes mental illness.
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incidentally I read in the oregonian a while back that a study dne over a period oftme was idicating that the people who are prescribed some of these anti-psychotics were dying 15- 20 years earlier than a person who doesnt take them. A guy at mywellness center just died a few weeks ago and was only in his early 50's. And not to metion the movement disordersthat people come down with as side effcts of these meds. My doctor told me it was likely that I will take meication indeffinately to insure that I dont suffer any relapse. And honestly if my doctor tells me to take these mds im going to listen t hr because I dont want to end up in the mental ward.
But one of the cool things that has caused positive change was rediscovering marijuana after an almost 6 year hiatus. Istrted smoking jst the tinyest amount in a cigarette and I would gt stoned, but not intense enough to have a negative reaction from it and worked my tolerance up from there. Now I got a reccomendation to grow 20 immature and 10 mature plants and can posess 3 lbs. But I do depend on weed as much as I depend on my oher meds. I sinceely believe that if I had not been taking medication I could not smoke pot ad enjoy its many benifits. Back in the day it cased me nothng but nightmarish panic attacks that would last for up to an hour. So of course I ddnt want to smoke the shit.
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I would really advise against any of those Designer Drugs, for your own safty. I can only tell you to go see a Homeopathic Doctor, one who is more holistic.

Natural cures are extremely effective if you are open to them. If you dont believe they will work... why would they?

And my best recomendation of ALL is to start doing yoga and meditation... If you are into any metaphysics or anything of that nature, one starts to realize that all negative emotions are actually stored in the body, in muscles and in organs. You must start learning to truly relax. Most people unconsciously hold TONSSSSSSSS of bad energy/emotions/hate/suisidal thoughts in their body. Once you realize this you can start to make progress. Start to notice how every time you feel a negative emotion you tense a body part. That is how you store these negatie emotions. Once you can see it coming and consciously Relax, you will realize you have total control over yourself.

If you actually are interested in gaining some mental health, start to do some Yoga..etc when you smoke some MM

Once you get used to this stuff, it becomes routine to relax, and you do it automatically (just as it used to be routine to store those emotions). All thats needed is some Re-wireing or Re-programming of the mind pattern!

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I would really advise against any of those Designer Drugs, for your own safty. I can only tell you to go see a Homeopathic Doctor, one who is more holistic.

Natural cures are extremely effective if you are open to them. If you dont believe they will work... why would they?

And my best recomendation of ALL is to start doing yoga and meditation... If you are into any metaphysics or anything of that nature, one starts to
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realize that all negative emotions are actually stored in the body, in muscles and in organs. You must start learning to truly relax. Most people unconsciously hold TONSSSSSSSS of bad energy/emotions/hate/suisidal thoughts in their body. Once you realize this you can start to make progress. Start to notice how every time you feel a negative emotion you tense a body part.
That is how you store these negatie emotions. Once you can see it coming and consciously Relax, you will realize you have total control over yourself.

If you actually are interested in gaining some mental health, start to do some Yoga..etc when you smoke some MM

Once you get used to this stuff, it becomes routine to relax, and you do it automatically (just as it used to be routine to store those emotions). All thats needed is some Re-wireing or Re-programming of the mind pattern!
yes, acctually I have looked into some naturalremedys based on diet and nutrition tht are supposed to treat symptom. I found one in a fairly popular book called Nutritional Healing and I know pople that swear by this book, even close faMily members. Its a big thick book that is carried by most organic food co-ops and sells for around $40. It reads like a text book too, jammed packed full of information. ut I triedgoing of of my medication for a summer and ate only organic fods, started taking th amno acid supplements the book reccomended and I was working heavy construction for 10 hrs a day as a mason tender. And I met a buddhist monk from thailand and strted atening his mditation grups. So I was doing all this healthy stuff physically, mentally, spirtually. (i also was doing juce fasts over the weekends wen I washed dishes at a chinese resterant) Well t make a long storyfairly sort, the whole damn thing blew upin myface and i wentall the way back to square one.
But the other thing, bout the mucle tensin. I ued to get panic attcks (m keybord isnt working) and I would eel vry foregn tomy body and shit and my heart would pound out of mychest and my muscles would spasm out of cntrol.I would just ly down somwere and my arms hands legs everwhere would twich and id feel like i was going to die. It would feel like forever But it wouldgo away. But I tin yor on t somethin with that about ngatve energy being located in muscls and organs and shit. If you have a metal illness, what are the chances that yo could become a bddha who has perfect mental health. Its all bad Karma. I just want happiess like the restof everyone and not to suffer.

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Well, lets bring up another front. Maybe the most important of all of this. Sexual energy. This is everything. Everything in this society is telling you to get rid of sexual energy for a quick fix. But this is what leads everyone on a EXTERNAL search for energy. This is not necessary. The internal search and cultivation of energy is very important to happiness. Ive heard taoists say it can take 60 days to regain sexual energy after ejaculating. But once you can have sex without needing to orgasm, this becomes not difficult.

Losing sexual energy constantly results in a complete \"mind fuck\", sort of like losing your mind. Losing your energy *can* start a cycle, where that 5 second orgasmic release becomes the best thing in life, an addiction, and thats what you try to achieve.

Learning to not give into temptations(A trap in disguise) is the solution. Then you can start to re-cultivate your sexual energy.

In reality, sexual energy is supposed to radiate throughout the entire body, and not just the genital region. And orgasms arent supposed to result in ejaculation(losing all your sexual/psychic/spiritual energy), they are supposed to be felt through the entire body. But most people eat way too much bad food and store way to much negativity in their bodies, and have no full body orgasm, etc.

Just work through the energy blockages, if that is your intent
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Hey if you have those panic attacks and you are alone, try to move with them(actually physically shake your body and move around and breathe). I\'ve had a few of those shaking attacks. They are very strange in nature. They are kind of scary, but Sometimes it feels kinda good once you realize you arent going to die.
Do you feel good when they are over? Better than before?
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well, i wouldnt say I would feel beter rather I would be less distressed. The nice thing isthat I dont have themanymore.
And thatsexual energy stuff is ver interesting. You got any good books t recommend?
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Yeah definitely, heres some really helpful books:
Amazon.com: Awaken Healing Energy Through Tao: Mantak Chia: Books
Amazon.com: Taoist Ways to Transform Stress into Vitality: The Inner Smile * Six Healing Sounds: Mantak Chia, Juan Li: Books
Amazon.com: Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy: Mantak Chia: Books
Amazon.com: Awaken Healing Light of the Tao: Mantak Chia: Books

These books are all by Mantak Chia. I\'m sure there are some great other teachers out there. But Chia is a master at teaching these practices.
The first two books can be read at the same time, and are pre-requisites for learning to cultivate sexual energy.

Then the last book is just a really nice encyclopedia of practices, all encoumpasing.

I actually have uploaded Many of his books in PDF, there are also Tons of Tantra books too. If you like them and they help you, you can go ahead and buy them like i did.

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Hi there,

Thought I'd put up this little post to tell you about my own experiences of using marijuana for my mental illness. About nine years ago I went to see my doctor complaining of mood swings. I was swinging from deep depression to bouts of uncontrollable irritability and aggression, sometimes as often as several times a week. I was diagnosed with severe unipolar depression (big mistake) as a result of stress at work (I'd been bullied by my boss for some eight years). I was prescribed anti-depressants which seemed to make me feel better, or rather just plain out of it, for a few weeks and then the mood swings returned. So my doctor doubled the dose (another big mistake). That made me even more depressed, more irritable and aggressive and increased the frequency of my mood swings. But the doctor said that was impossible, so gave me an even stronger anti-depressant (yet another big ... OK you get the picture LOL).

To cut a long story short I was on just about every anti-depressant under the sun over the next two or three years, and reached the point where I was becoming increasingly suicidal and just plain dangerous to other people, mainly my wife and kids. I had reached the end. One night I was visiting my cousin who as usual was rolling a joint and I took a few puffs. I used to smoke years before when I was at university but hadn't for a long time. On this particular evening I was in one of my "irritable" phases and as soon as I smoked that joint I immediately felt normal for the first time in years. And it lasted for several weeks afterwards too (I didn't smoke any more during this time).

Anyway I started researching medical marijuana for mental illness online and discovered that a lot of people were using it to control the (hypo) manic episodes of Bipolar II Disorder, the symptoms of which, interestingly enough, exactly matched my own symptoms. So I went to my specialist and he agreed to take me off anti-depressants and let me try Depakote, which had been used to treat Bipolar II Disorder successfully in the US (I'm in the UK). Within a few days I felt much better, the mood swings virtually stopped and the doctors decided that I had Bipolar II Disorder all of a sudden LOL. BTW, my research revealed that the worst thing you can do for someone with Bipolar II Disorder is give them anti-depressants as, guess what, it usually increases the severity and frequency of their mood swings. A lesson to be learned there for my team of "doctors" - or at least I HOPE they learned their lesson.

However, I find that having been on Depakote for several years, my mood swings have returned to a certain extent, although the manic episodes are not quite as "violent" as they used to be. What I can say is that having smoked marijuana on and off in the meantime I find that there is simply nothing like it - not only does it lift the spirits during my periods of depression, it is absolutely superb at stopping my manic episodes before they even get a chance to fully develop. I recently brought this up with my new doctor (my old one retired) and he was more than happy that I use marijuana to control my symptoms. Of course he can't prescribe it for me, and suggested I grow it myself (that's why I'm here). He even took a note of our discussion (don't know if that was a wise move or not) and said if I had any trouble with the police to send them to him. It won't stop them giving me a hard time and stealing my plants, but at least they may be less inclined to "throw the book" at me if they are sympathetic enough to accept that I have a medical reason for growing it.

Anyway, sorry this post ended up so long. I hope it has been of some interest. I'd be glad to know what you think and whether anyone else has used marijuana successfully for similar conditions.

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