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I am a medical marijuana patient in the Denver Colorado area. I understand the law in that I personally am allowed to grow up to 6 plants, not more than 3 of them in the mature flowering stage. I have a small grow tent and have followed the law to the letter, actually destroying a female plant when 4 of the 6 determined female.

Before my plants became mature, I had to use a dispensary. I have been using a dispensary near I-25 and Colorado Blvd ran by a Russian guy. He has pounds and pounds of pot at his location. What I don't understand is, how can he posses more than the two ounces that I am limited to?

Unfortunately I may lose my job in the coming months and am looking for a new career path. I was thinking of opening a dispensary or just growing to sell wholesale to the dispensaries. But by reading the law, I just don't see how to do it legally. I actually don't see how dispensaries operate legally. I mean if I am limited to 3 flowering plants, how can I ever grow enough to make it a full time job? Where do dispensaies' get their supply? Why do I see the same strains every where, OG KUSH, AK-47, etc. etc.?

I really enjoy growing marijuana and would love to invest in this industry but don't want to go to prison. Of course I know I can consult with an attorney and probably will but wanted to see if there was any information out there.

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The way i understand the law is that. He is probably a care giver for many pateints if you are a patient you get your six plants, if you become a care giver for another pateint you now can grow and keep the amounts for ureself and the other pateint.

So 12 plants and 4 oz lose. and so on and so on. So if you have 10 patients you can grow there 60 + your 6. so you could flower 33 and veg 33 plants total add keep 22 oz lose. hope that helped you and hope my information is corect>
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That info is correct.
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A disp may have as many growers/cg that they can find, get patients for them to grow the patients plants. The the disp agrees to purchase whatever amount you grower and they sell to yours and other patients. Some disp will offer discount to patient by having member and non-member pricing.
There are a lot of gray areas in our law, and most are using those areas to their advantage.
One last thing, you still have the affirmative defense if needed. The law states "whatever is medically necessary" so if you have more then 6/3/2 oz then you have to prove why you need that much.

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The way i understand the law is that. He is probably a care giver for many pateints if you are a patient you get your six plants, if you become a care giver for another pateint you now can grow and keep the amounts for ureself and the other pateint.

So 12 plants and 4 oz lose. and so on and so on. So if you have 10 patients you can grow there 60 + your 6. so you could flower 33 and veg 33 plants total add keep 22 oz lose. hope that helped you and hope my information is corect>
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Yep, PP69 is on the mark. Either the patient or the cargiver can grow the 6 plants.

Any of our patients sign an agreement that they won't grow in addition to the 6 plants we are cultivating on their behalf.
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Yep, PP69 is on the mark. Either the patient or the cargiver can grow the 6 plants.

Any of our patients sign an agreement that they won't grow in addition to the 6 plants we are cultivating on their behalf.
That when we designated the dispensary to be our caregiver to get the better prices that we gave up our right to grow our 6 plants?

We did designate the dispensary as our caregiver but we were just doing this until our own garden started producing. That means I have to go back to the state and ask the caregiver designation be removed?

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Everything posted above is true.
What everyone is forgetting is that Amendment 20 says nothing about dispensaries.
They are neither legal nor illegal, and present a huge grey area.
For the time being, dispensaries are doing whatever they want (without attracting attention) and getting away with it.
For now, nobody can answer your question.
You will have to wait for rulings in the coming months to determine the stance of dispensaries.

Your best bet however is to abide by the law and only have 6 plants or two ounces per patients.
This is where caregivers come into play.
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my dispensary told me that i can never lose or sign over my rights to grow my 6 plants. And that im only giving them the right to grow 6 six also as a my care giver. If you read the law it never says you give up your right to grow when you list a care giver.
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The law states that a patient and a Caregiver may "COLLECTIVELY" grow 6 plants... . You don't automatically give up your right to grow your own plats, but a caregiver may assume that that is what you want him to do for you. If your a patient and want to grow some your self (which I recommend) then when you sign someone as your cg have an agreement as to how many you/they are each going to grow. There is also the affirmative defense if your over your 6, get a Dr to recommend more plants and divy them up to your cg and you.

The law does not SPECIFICLLY mention Disp as a business, BUT has wording that many are reading dispensary into.

(d) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions, no person, including a patient or primary care-giver, shall be entitled to the protection of this section for his or her acquisition, possession, manufacture, production, use, sale, distribution, dispensing, or transportation of marijuana for any use other than medical use.


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i was specifiacly told face to face with the owner of the dispencery i decided to go to. I told him specificaly that i want my privlidge to grow all 6 of my plants. He told me straight up and straight faced that the patient does not wave his privelidge to grow his 6 plants even though i put them down as a caregiver. Thats all i cared about when i signed up with this dispencery. And i made it perfectly clear that i want to grow my 6.

Matter of fact he stated something called the umbrella. He told me not only do i get to grow my 6, He gave me permission to grow the six that i gave him permission to grow as care giver, He said he would probally never grow my six. So he sent me a card telling me that i have the permission to grow his 6 and my 6. 12 total. and if there is any question with law enforcement have the police call him directly.

If that is not the case then i need to know now so i can release them as my caregiver.

I must add that this dispencery seems extremly profesional and Knowlegable.

But ya never know i guess

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Like has already been stated, the law states clearly that either the caregiver OR the patient can have 6 plants, not both. In addition you may also have 2 ounces of dried medicine. {somebody above said 6 plants OR 2oz}

GO READ THE LAW FOR YOURSELF AND QUIT TRUSTING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU.
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medi...amendment.html
other information is here:
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/

If somebody provides you with incorrect information, it will be you in the handcuffs not them.

There are instances where you can have above the 6 plants, but will require a court room to sort it out. Law enforcement goes by 6 Plants.

But, don't listen to me, you are a patient, go read the rules for yourself and make your own judgment.

You can submit a new form to the state to easily change or remove your caregiver, but you must get it notarized now.
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