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Default In Los Angeles - Medical pot proposal erases compassion
from todays Los Angeles Times paper:

"Medical pot proposal erases compassion"

by Sandy Banks

"L.A. needs to regulate pot dispensaries, but this plan goes too far."

"...when her turn came, she gripped her cane, made her way to the microphone and joined a chorus of would-be lawbreakers, there to fight a proposed ordinance that would ban the sale of medical marijuana in Los Angeles.

Bowen showed up at the council hearing because renegade marijuana shops have become the scourge of neighborhoods...she "holds a prescription for medical marijuana" and sometimes relies on the drug for "extra help" with the pain from an autoimmune disorder...she was shocked to learn that the ordinance being considered would stop over-the-counter sales at dispensaries and allow only "collectives," where patients would have to plant, grow and harvest the marijuana they need.

"I can't grow my own," said Bowen, a 56-year-old former talent agent. "I have a brown thumb."

"...Now, dispensaries take in as much marijuana as they can sell, most from pot farms in Northern California. The new law would allow each collective to grow no more than 100 plants at a time, or keep more than five pounds of dried marijuana on hand..."

"...no more signing up on the spot. Patients would register in advance by name, address and phone number. No cash would change hands. The collective's records would specify "the exact nature of each member's participation" and could be reviewed by police at any time, "without need for a search warrant, subpoena or court order."

"...Are these patients or parolees we're talking about?..."

"...The proposed ordinance "may appear tough," conceded Deputy City Atty. Heather Aubry. "But everything that we've said is based on the law and the [court] cases. That's what we have to focus on, not whether or not we think it's fair, not whether we like it, not whether it's the most convenient method. . .

"We don't feel that we are going against the intent of voters," she said."

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that be some bullshit hope it fails miserbly la should want this even more money they will lose and being they are always in debt they should just bump bud tax a lil and leave them alone like in oakland
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that be some bullshit hope it fails miserbly la should want this even more money they will lose and being they are always in debt they should just bump bud tax a lil and leave them alone like in oakland
hey,

yeah, this new regulation proposal should not pass.

as far as taxing the good herb more than other prescription drugs i feel this shouldn't happen either. patients shouldn't carry the burden of a mismanaged city with extra taxes not imposed on other medicine. don't want to encourage that kind of thinking.

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Update:

"Judge grants injunction against city's medical marijuana dispensary ban"

ahhh, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

this morning's paper in los angeles

"...A Superior Court judge concluded today that Los Angeles' moratorium on new medical marijuana dispensaries is invalid and granted a preliminary injunction against enforcement of the ban sought by a dispensary that had sued the city.

Judge James C. Chalfant determined that the city failed to follow state law when it extended its initial moratorium. " The city cannot rely on an expired ordinance," he said..."

"...Green Oasis and a number of other medical marijuana collectives sued the city last month, challenging its efforts to control the dispensaries. The lawsuit argued that the City Council violated state law when it extended the ban until mid-March and that it is unconstitutionally vague.

Although the injunction applies only to Green Oasis, the judge's ruling calls into question the city's power to enforce the moratorium against hundreds of dispensaries that have opened in the last two years. The ruling could inspire other dispensaries to join the lawsuit or file similar actions..."

"...the city argued that the moratorium is not subject to the conditions and limitations of state law because it is not an ordinance dealing with zoning, but with public safety. Zoning ordinances cannot be extended beyond 24 months. The city adopted the first of two moratoriums on Aug. 1, 2007.

The judge rejected that argument..."


ahhh, hahahahahahahahahahahaha!


"...Robert A. Kahn, an attorney for Green Oasis, argued that the dispensary did nothing wrong, noting that, under state law, the moratorium expired 45 days after it was first enacted. "The did not believe they were violating the law," he said..."

"...Dan Lutz, a co-owner of Green Oasis and president of the collective association, filed the lawsuit after the council voted to shut down his dispensary, which opened in May.

Lutz, like hundreds of other dispensary owners in Los Angeles, had filed a request with the council for an exemption from the moratorium so he could operate, but opened without permission. The council failed to act on these requests until June, an oversight that prevented city officials from taking legal steps to close the dispensaries.

-- John Hoeffel at L.A. Superior Court..."


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more on the medical cannabis fight in los angeles:

"Medical marijuana poll: Most L.A. voters support dispensaries"
October 22, 2009 | 10:00 am

"...The marijuana Policy Project, based in Washington, D.C., commissioned the poll by an independent firm, Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, after Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley threatened all dispensaries in the county with prosecution..."

"...74% support the state's medical marijuana law, while 54% want to see marijuana legalized, regulated and taxed..."

"...I think the take-home message here is voters in L.A. County overwhelmingly support the state's medical marijuana law. They think dispensaries, properly regulated, can be a part of that, and Mr. Cooley's really out of step," said Bruce Mirken, the California-based spokesman for the organization..."

"...Both Democrats (83%-7%) and Republicans (62%-30%) support regulation over prosecution..."

"...The poll of 625 voters found that 77% of voters want to regulate dispensaries, while 14% want them closed..."

"...Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the district attorney, said that Cooley merely intends to enforce state law. "Selling marijuana over the counter for profit is a violation of the law," she said. "Mr. Cooley has said that, if it is found that the marijuana is being supplied in accord with the Compassionate Use Act, then those operations are not targets..."

and the interesting demographics, albeit predictable:

"...The poll found support for treating marijuana similarly to alcohol among county voters across most demographics, except voters who are 65 or older and Republicans. Both groups oppose it by about a 10-point margin. Young people, voters between 18 and 34, strongly support legalization, 72%-18%..."

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what los angeles is up against with new city attorney:

"I thought Reefer Madness was over?!? Guess we still have idiots believing otherwise…"

"LA City Attorney, Carmen “Nuch” Trutanich, has been all over the media trying to convince Los Angeles that a pesticide used to kill Mexican fire ants is evidence that medical cannabis provided by dispensaries is poisonous and supporting Mexican drug cartels..."


"According to Trutanich, three samples of medical marijuana from “controlled buys” by undercover LAPD were tested by an FDA laboratory. On these samples, Mr Trutanich said the lab found high concentrations of an insecticide used to kill fire ants in Mexico. Trutanich claims this Mexican fire ant insecticide is evidence that LA medical cannabis is being supplied by the Mexican drug cartels..."

the facts contradict the new city attorney

"...There are no Mexican fire ants.



There is the notorious red imported fire ant – solenopsis invicta – but that’s from Brazil, not Mexico. Those fire ants were accidently imported into the US in the 1930’s then spread across the southern United States. Fire ants were never found in Mexico, until they crossed the Texas border into northern Mexico a few years back. But even if expatriate Texan fire ants have decamped to Mexico, what does that prove about the origin of marijuana in Los Angeles dispensaries? If a cannabis dispensary uses chopsticks to pull marijuana buds from jars does that mean that the marijuana is being supplied by Chinese spies?..."

"...The insecticide that Nuch (new city attorney) found in his big bag of herb was bifenthrin. Bifenthrin belongs to a very common class of insecticides called pyrethroids. The most common pyrethroid is pyrethrum, which is made from chrysanthemums. Pyrethrum is considered safe enough for use on organic fruits, herbs and vegetables throughout the world, including cannabis. See, most pyrethroids aren’t all that toxic, except to fish and some insects..."


"...Mr Trutanich claims that bifenthrim is not used in California and by implication that its use is restricted to less enlightened places, such as Mexico. But Mr. Trutanich is dead wrong. According to pesticideinfo.org, California farmers used 107,000 pounds of bifenthrim on their crops in 2007. They used it on corn, almonds, strawberries, even wine grapes. Fifty tons of it..."


"...What messages should we take away from Trutanich’s Cassandra call? That the City Attorney and the County DA will say anything in their attempt to close LA’s medical cannabis collectives..."



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Sounds similar to any place that politicians want to do things. The lies start as soon as they open their mouths. How do these schmucks get into office?
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Sounds similar to any place that politicians want to do things. The lies start as soon as they open their mouths. How do these schmucks get into office?
yeah, they are good liars. hopefully someone at FOX will refute what he said while he was at their broadcast station.

the los angeles times had a front page story about him (new city attorney) this morning how he's threatening, harassing, & get this, not even knowing the laws he's sworn to uphold.

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Los Angeles City Attorney Carmen Trutanich Talks About HIs Opposition To The MMJ Co-ops

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Update:

"One City's Insane Fight Against Obama's Sane New Pot Policy"
By John H. Richardson

"...nothing's stopping Los Angeles from finding every last ridiculous loophole..."

"As the right-wingers warned from the beginning, medical marijuana is turning out to be the genie you can't stuff back in the bottle. Even if the L.A. city council's rushed vote comes down in favor of the Trutanich ordinance, it seems likely that the regulations will be overturned in the courts — which is exactly what happened with Trutanich's last attempt to shut down the clubs. The state attorney general has already gone on record saying — and reiterated to Esquire.com when we asked him for comment — that the law allows sales. In the end, this case of bureaucratic bullying — and others across the country as states come to terms with a (relatively) sane White House pot policy — will be just another pointless and expensive skirmish on the inevitable road to marijuana legalization."

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/rich...#ixzz0VUjplfTI
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