Lots more Colorado MMJ info in available on http://ColoMM.com

thanks for the helpful link, +rep

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I never said your reason for your card wasn't legit. But telling people to lie to get theirs, hurts the current system in place. If YOU would have really read what I wrote I said that "YES, it SHOULD be legal for all of us" BUT IT'S NOT, maybe your dander wouldn't be up so much.

You telling people to LIE to get their card hurts the medical programs in place BY GIVING "THEM" FUEL FOR THEIR FIRE - TO SAY WE'RE ALL STUPID DRUGGIE POT HEADS WHO JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR STASH.

Like it or not, this is the current system and we're lucky that they allow what they do (even if WE don't think it's enough).

AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR EVERYONE.

You call me an elitist for because I follow simple laws, but that's as stupid as saying someone who doesn't drink and drive is an elitist.

And, a little advise: GET OFF YOU'RE I'M-SUCH-A-BADASS-BECAUSE-I'M GOING-TO-TEAR-DOWN-THE-SYSTEM Horse and realize that YOU are perpetuating the right wing argument against ALL of us.

let me just start by saying that I don't want a malicious argument (this isn't the politics forum afterall), so lets both take it down a notch and agree to disagree before any further debate ensues. I respect your opinion, and i think we could have a great debate if both of us could take a deep breath (of smoke), but your points would come across better without the all capital letters 'forum shouting'. this is a passionate subject that we see from two conflicting perspectives, so here's my response.

first off, pardon my dander, but I dislike being called a criminal by someone I find uninformed about my life.
but on point: this thread is intended for and read by an audience unshaken by a mild and indirect protesting of the 'system' (aka political machinations). i doubt public opinion is going to be shaped by what happens or is said on a forum that directly serves this niche. but if you say my support of 'lying' is what could hinder this medical movement, I respond that we are lied to everyday about this plant, my lies or support of lying is at least based in sound logic.


I understand you think we are lucky, but I sure don't feel lucky. give yourself and your fellow citizens some credit, humans should fight for their rights and not be rolled over... don't just settle with the lesser of two evils and get comfortable. yes, I agree that America is better than communist Russia (or whatever), but does that mean that it can't improve in the way its citizens desire? if people didn't refuse the bullshit the gov't feeds us in a multitude of ways, there would still be slavery, zero civil rights, no democracy, etc etc.

I am not comfortable with gov't handouts, because anything we get is on their terms, for their benefit. I feel like cheating the system that wants to be cheated (MJ doctors don't give a shit if you are really "sick" under standard definition) is totally within ethical boundaries.

so this really all breaks down to whether you think that the gov't has the right definition of someone who can choose for themselves to smoke, or if random stoners should get legit under false terms to 'medicate' their undiagnosed depression, anxiety, social awkwardness, boredom (jk)... its really hard for some people to see a psychologist about their issues, and the doctors just gonna get you on pills. so why shouldn't anyone get to choose 'given' the option?

if you met me, you'd realize i'm the least 'badass' guy around... I'm just a stoned communications major who is developing his green thumb lol. but I am a firm believer in the inalieable rights of us all... and its too late for me to forget what I've seen and to go back to believing that this country wants us to follow the laws. I'm happy to extend on this if you disagree.

as to the right wing's arguments... just because these fools distort my truth to advance their agendas does not make me desire to adjust said truth. I have always believed that if an intelligent person attempts to debate a fool, onlookers would be unable to distinguish who is intelligent and who is the fool.

I look forward to your response

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my doctor has been trying to push me onto oxy's for years becouse i have 2 "slipped" discs in my spine
for over ten years ive been telling him no no no and he just wants to push more opiates,
im changing doctors bc mine is stuck in the reefer madness world(must have seen movie for that to make sence)
he thinks pot will kill everyone
his words " id rather prescride suicide,thats where the weed leads you"