new states news

silasraven

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its not been even a month, but im still sure there are strides for meds in other states, is there anything new on the eastern half that anyone knows of? im in North Carolina just trying to get an idea of what is coming up for states and becoming medical, with washington legal and colardo at 6 plants this year should be full of medical strides all threw the usa.
 
You know i was wondering the same thing. I saw a good deal on some soils and nutes and bought some, living in massachusetts figuring i'd be able to get my card at the start of the year; but I haven't heard anything on the subject, and my doctor hasn't responded yet to my message(s) I left him, so I have a good idea on his policy of medical marijuana, even though for my main condition, UC, he literally told me "I could prescribe you marinol if you'd like, but you're better off just getting 'the real thing'." sigh.. sometimes I just do not understand doctors, whatsoever.. anyone know of the scoop on the East Coast, mass in particular (obviously after NC for the OP's home state) please speak up... cant keep this stuff in a fridge forever, i think..
 

Doobiest

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I also reside in the east,..well,...southeast. I really wish we could get some help over this way! I live in a state that produces a pretty good amount of the pot used by patients yet remain a state in which medical marijuana is illegal. WHAT`S THE SECRET!! Lmao....
 

GrowinDad

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I am firmly convinced that once we can get Gay Marriage settled, marijuana policy will be the next big rights issue. As it stands, Obama may need to lift or reclassify the federal designation to deal with the state laws. I don't think we will see 100% legalization in all states, just as some counties still don't sell booze. But I thik we'll many kore medicinal states, more legal recreational, overall decriminalization, and no federal intervention. It's about 25 yrs after I first worked on the CA Hemp Initiative and alas the tides are turning!
 

bigbull52

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I know its been on FL's voting Ballots for the past few years now to De-criminalize cannabis usage. One of these days, We will pass it here in sunny So-Flo!
 
House bill 84 was introduced this year and then given an unfavorable report because the legislators said they were tired of being harassed by people requesting their support. This bill would have legalized medical marijuana in NC but despite overwhelming public support it was still killed. The problem is, just like yourself, noone had a clue this bill existed.
 

VARick

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This has been on the docket for the past 3 years in FL. Has always stalled in committee, with a poll showing a 70% approval rating by the citizens of FL, I'm sure it would pass if put on the ballot. I'm hopeful, however with a part time legislature it may stall in committee again.

its going in front of state legislators here in florida in 13 days!!

CAN'T WAIT!!! lol
 

silasraven

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one states holding up till 2014 sorry for you guys, good luck to those of you who have it coming up. flyer the town up for a vote. most people can vote. so we just lost for the year. some bullshit saying we were harassing them. 58% likes it and the old fucks who control the state wont move the fuck on. good luck to those of you who will. i would love info on how it has raised funds for the state and numbers such as support and the good of this.
http://www.mpp.org/states/north-carolina/
Shortly after hundreds of medical marijuana patients and advocates met in Raleigh to lobby in support of Rep. Kelly Alexander’s (D – Mecklenburg) medical marijuana legislation, a group of legislators led by Rep. Paul “Skip” Stam (R – Wake County) killed the compassionate legislation, claiming calls and emails in support amounted to harassment! No wonder lawmakers heard so often from their constituents about this bill considering 58% of voters in the Tar Heel State support medical marijuana legislation. If you live in North Carolina, take a minute to email your lawmakers and urge them to listen to, instead of brush aside, constituent feedback; urge them to join the majority and support medical marijuana.
 

bigbull52

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This has been on the docket for the past 3 years in FL. Has always stalled in committee, with a poll showing a 70% approval rating by the citizens of FL, I'm sure it would pass if put on the ballot. I'm hopeful, however with a part time legislature it may stall in committee again.
The problem is, NO ONE goes out and fills out the ballot.... Atleast in south florida (PBC)... Im sure you ALL heard of the issues with our voting polls the past 3 elections... lol

Well, 10 days from now, and it will be infront of our state legislators, with some one with Lugericks* Disease being the front whiteness to propose medicinal uses.

I CANT WAITTT... even if they turn it down, at least its being pushed here... SOONER OR LATER BABYYY lol.
 

VARick

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Just got this in an email, two high profile names joining the parade. John Morgan (Morgan and Morgan law firm - For the People is their catch phrase). Can't say I know much about Ben Pollara tho. Hopefully these two will have the clout to drive the bill out of committee and onto the ballot.

I am delighted to announce we have two champions that have agreed to take on our cause. John Morgan, who started his business empire by developing one of the largest law firms in the South, is now the chairman. The treasurer is Ben Pollara, a dynamic fundraiser who served President Obama and Hillary Clinton. The team we are putting together have the expertise to get the job done right. This is exactly what we have been working towards for four years. God is hearing our prayers - keep up the good work!

The problem is, NO ONE goes out and fills out the ballot.... Atleast in south florida (PBC)... Im sure you ALL heard of the issues with our voting polls the past 3 elections... lol

Well, 10 days from now, and it will be infront of our state legislators, with some one with Lugericks* Disease being the front whiteness to propose medicinal uses.

I CANT WAITTT... even if they turn it down, at least its being pushed here... SOONER OR LATER BABYYY lol.
 

bigbull52

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AWESOME.

I already not MOST of the southern regions will be the ones voting to pass it. Lake Worth mayor, in Palm Beach County is the one pushing it the heaviest and I believe he has got the back of the tri-County area

(MIA/BRWC/PBC)

THATS DEFINITELY good news though, mind if i ask where you got that info from? I've been keeping my eye open for all the news recently.
 

Jogro

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I am firmly convinced that once we can get Gay Marriage settled, marijuana policy will be the next big rights issue.
As issues, the two really aren't connected one to the other.

For example, Colorado legalized recreational cannabis BEFORE gay marriage. Alaska has had legal/decriminalized cannabis for years off-and-on, but its banned same-sex marriage and probably isn't going to change the latter soon.

I do agree there are two similarities between the two issues. First of all, its typically social conservatives that oppose both legal cannabis and State recognition of same-sex marriage. So its *mostly* (but not entirely) true that jurisdictions that oppose one oppose the other, and vice versa.

The other similarity is that both issues are overwhemingly supported by younger demographics, which means that popularity of both things is increasing over time as young persons become older and increase their frequency of voting. So the same forces that are pushing for State recognition of gay marriage are also pushing for cannabis legal liberalization too, and in both cases, time is on the side of the legalizers.

As it stands, Obama may need to lift or reclassify the federal designation to deal with the state laws.
Don't see this at all.

First of all, Obama doesn't make the law, he just enforces it (or chooses not to). Congress banned cannabis, not the President. If you want to legalize cannabis at a FEDERAL level, you need Congress to change the Federal law, not the President. Bluntly, there is no way that's going to happen in the near term future. With only a few states even permitting this at the State level, you can't realistically expect this issue to make headway at a Federal level. While its possible that cannabis could get re-scheduled off of DEA schedule I sooner, major federal cannabis criminal legal reform is probably at LEAST ten years off.

Next, Federal law trumps State law. The State of Texas may permit you to own hand grenades, Federal law does not. There is no real conflict there. . .if Federal law enforcement catches you with a hand grenade, you're subject to FEDERAL criminal liability. The fact that CO lets you smoke or grow weed legally doesn't make it legal under Federal law; if the Feds catch you they can still bust you, if they choose to.

So I really don't see why Obama "has" to do anything here. If he likes he can choose to selectively not enforce certain aspects of Federal drug law for political reasons (as he did the first part of his first term), but he can also decide (out of political expediency) that he's going to reverse his policy and start to crack down on the most egregious offenders (as he did the second part of his first term). There is also no reason he can't reverse course again to make an example of State-level drug sellers and throw medical growers in jail on Federal cultivation or possession charges, if he so chooses.

Now, as a matter of practice, I don't think he will do that. . .at this point it would hurt him politically. . .but he certainly "could" do it (and would) if he thought there was political advantage to be had in doing so.


I don't think we will see 100% legalization in all states, just as some counties still don't sell booze. But I thik we'll many kore medicinal states, more legal recreational, overall decriminalization, and no federal intervention.
I don't think we're going to see "100% legalization" in **ANY** State. IE, you're NEVER going to be free to grow, buy, or possess as much cannabis as you like, the way, say, you are right now with basil or other herbs.

If that idea sounds "crazy" to you, remember, that was the legal status of cannabis in the USA for about 150 years, the majority of its history. Any current "legalization" scheme is going to come attached to pretty significant restrictions on possession, cultivation, and probably come with steep taxes too.

But I do agree with you entirely on the premise above. We probably will see increasing numbers of states that permit restricted legal use of cannabis under a "medical" schema over the next few years. For example, New Hampshire is likely to permit medical MJ soon.

Assuming the sky doesn't "fall" in CO or WA (and I doubt it will), we'll probably see at least a few other states permit limited possession/cultivation for recreational use over the next decade. Good candidates for that include CA, OR, and AK. But remember, proposition 19 to legalize MJ in CA *failed* (badly. . .by about an 8% margin) in CA just two years ago.

Of course there will still be States that ban all possession and cultivation of cannabis for the foreseeable future. EG, I wouldn't expect legal MJ in Alabama anytime soon, though hopefully even those states will eventually come around to decriminalization so that people don't face criminal sanction for limited possession or cultivation.
 

Jogro

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Good summary article on next states likely to legalize in Rolling Stone magazine a few months ago: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-next-seven-states-to-legalize-pot-20121218

In short, their take is: OR, CA, NV, AK, RI, ME, VT.

I'm a bit skeptical about the New England states anytime in the near future, but OR and AK are pretty likely, in my opinion.

AK in particular has already had on and off limited legal pot for the last 30 years; I don't think it would take much for them to open it up a little more there again.

NV also has a bit of a reputation of being the last vestige of the "wild west". They have legal gambling, prostitution, machine guns, and no State income tax. Las Vegas is one of the only cities that lets you openly consume alcohol on the street downtown (New Orleans happens to be another). So I don't think legal pot is a big hurdle to cross there.
 

silasraven

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well thanks for all the info. when you get it please post it. good to know. right now im hoping the eastern sea board will say yes to meds.
 

Rancho Cucamonga

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Good summary article on next states likely to legalize in Rolling Stone magazine a few months ago: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-next-seven-states-to-legalize-pot-20121218

In short, their take is: OR, CA, NV, AK, RI, ME, VT.

I'm a bit skeptical about the New England states anytime in the near future, but OR and AK are pretty likely, in my opinion.

AK in particular has already had on and off limited legal pot for the last 30 years; I don't think it would take much for them to open it up a little more there again.

NV also has a bit of a reputation of being the last vestige of the "wild west". They have legal gambling, prostitution, machine guns, and no State income tax. Las Vegas is one of the only cities that lets you openly consume alcohol on the street downtown (New Orleans happens to be another). So I don't think legal pot is a big hurdle to cross there.
Rolling Stones also said back in the early 90s that marijuana would be legal in most places in a decade and that the cigarette companies would monopolize the industry. Not the best source on this issue.
 
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